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Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by daemin »

ranger_danger wrote: post #559
daemin wrote: post #558

I checked this on my computers: On Windows 10 the Weather application uses 2-4MB when not active, which climbs to around 490-550MB when active. On Windows 11 the Weather application doesn't appear to be running at all when not active and it climbs to about 540MB when active. No where near the results presented in the article, however: The amount of memory used could vary by region and provider used to get the weather…

> I'm puzzled by why Microsoft made this into a Web based application The number and availability of native UI programmers compared to web devs is a rounding error.

If any place should be mostly filled with native application developers it should be Microsoft. No test engineers any more but there should be plenty of native application developers.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by antibarbarus »

Meanwhile I’m running Waydroid with Android 13 – _an entire operating system, with apps, running services, etc_ – on my laptop, in roughly that same memory footprint.

Where did it all go wrong? To think I really liked Windows 10 when it first came out, and thought it was a solid direction forward into modernising Windows.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by izacus »

capr wrote: post #595
izacus wrote: post #427

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AI writes code like that, but people get pretty upset hearing it. Yeah, people get upset when you spew out total bullshit. I work as a performance specialist and "AI writes code like that" is utter nonsense. AI writes the same terrible performing code that was the mediocre developer standard on Stackexchange and other codebases it ate. You still need a lot of vigilance and time to make well performing software and…

performance specialist, really?

Yes.

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Post by mort96 »

mpyne wrote: post #172
dasyud wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once worked on a project where the goal was to improve the reliability of MS Teams. The skip level manager was not happy when we said we cannot estimate what the revenue gain would be because it can't be measured.

This risks getting into the Fisherian/Bayesian stats wars again, but it would be possible to project a revenue gain, even in advance of making the change. You'd do this in terms of improved customer retention, lower cost of future customer acquisition, increased price a Teams license could sustain based on a rep for higher reliability, etc. Obviously it's not a change that you'd be able to pin a specific human decisi…

How do you estimate the improved customer retention and improved future customer acquisition of something as nebulous as, "this does very little on its own but is a tiny part of making Microsoft software feel more robust in general"?

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Post by hulitu »

mhh__ wrote: post #523
lp4v4n wrote: post #510

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>rust programs are a lot of times faster [...] than C and C++ counterparts Troll post? Or has fanboyism really gone this far?

It's often basically true though - the guarantees that rust can make wrt to lifetimes and memory allocation clearly enable programs to allocate less and be more aggressive with what they do allocate (all while being a fairly high-level language - I don't know if most rust programmers actually know what memory safety is at this point) I'm really not a huge fan of rust as a language but it is clearly delivering results…

> it is clearly delivering results

Yeah, there are some results in Firefox and some results in Mesa and some results in the linux kernel, but that's about all.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by hulitu »

to11mtm wrote: post #291
ndriscoll wrote: post #37

My gaming PC that I built in January 2006 that IIRC I used to simultaneously run Battlefield 2, Trillian, Xfire, Thunderbird, and Winamp with a 1680x1050 monitor had 1 GB of total system RAM.

I remember within the last decade noting that minesweeper from the windows store took more space than a pretty damn healthy Win98SE install (with minesweeper)...

Gray on gray is pretty resource hungry.

And you need code to handle device orientation, in case the PC Tower is flipped on the side.

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Post by bzzzt »

inigyou wrote: post #587
bzzzt wrote: post #557

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Atari 2600 titles are between 1 and 4Kb and have 128 bytes of RAM. Still enough for some quality entertainment back in its time.

They're pretty seriously limiting though when you actually look at those games. The GameCube/PS2 is probably the era where hardware was finally good enough to make the game you wanted.

Some of those games are remarkably fun and addictive though. It's difficult to take an arbitrary spec and say that's 'good enough'. For some it's too much, others still want more. Depends on the kind of games you want.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by rightbyte »

rk06 wrote: post #503

the main problem with windows is that its applications are integrated in windows and can not be disabled and replaced by better software trivially. nor is there anyone incentivised to improve customer experience for windows. it baffles me how bad windows search is. there are multiple tools out there which do a far better job. same for file explorer.

I think the main selling point of Windows Search is spying and manipulation. Turning off websearch just leaves a carcass.
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