I turned off "smart features" in the setting months ago, and I've never seen any of the things the author complains about.
Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#602So many seem to have made a similar move. But the one thing holding me back: starting with a new email address. My email address is not just for email. It's so firmly embedded in my digital life, it's hard to think how to remove it. It's my identity. I use "login with Google" in most places where it's available. It's my backup recovery for my MFA authenticator. It's my github alias. So what is the strategy everyone f…
Rip the band-aid. You don't own your email, which means all the things you're worried about could at any moment be lost anyway.
Buy a domain, own the MX records, send your emails where-ever you want. Then just try live your life, and anytime you log into something, try swap it over to your new domain.
Keep your gmail, keep it as the backup email. Just reduce your risk.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#603What the suggestion chatbot designers don’t realize is that accepting the suggestion may be a double cognitive load than just writing it.
If it’s an email of any importance you have to read and understand the whole suggestion. And to get the suggestion you already expressed that thought.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#604So many seem to have made a similar move. But the one thing holding me back: starting with a new email address. My email address is not just for email. It's so firmly embedded in my digital life, it's hard to think how to remove it. It's my identity. I use "login with Google" in most places where it's available. It's my backup recovery for my MFA authenticator. It's my github alias. So what is the strategy everyone f…
Same here. What worries me most is what if Google just decide for whatever reason to close my email account down. I've already had several Youtube accounts closed for (in my opinion) spurious reasons. The appeals process is a joke. I can live without Youtube, but I can't easily get myself out of the gmail hole I've dug over the last 2 decades.
you know what they say about planting a tree. buy a domain name, set up a forward from gmail, and set a reminder to migrate 1 account per day to your new email address. 1 year later you’ll be in a much better position in case google decides to randomly ban you
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
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I know everyone's tired of hearing this, but this doesn't happen on Linux. I know I know, it's different and a little janky here and there and maybe you have to find a replacement for one or two pieces of software. But like, you don't actually have to put up with this. There is a better way.
Doesn’t happen on mac either, right?
Macos absolutely has incessant random popups everywhere. Not exactly the same kind, of course.
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Probably the nothing to install experience. Every Android phone comes with Gmail and every device has a web browser. Do people have to install Gmail on iOS? I'm using Thunderbird with POP3 accounts, download on my laptop then remove from the server, daily backups. My phone has K9 (the old one with the UI I like) and I never remove messages from the phone. When I send mail from the phone I bcc myself so I can see the…
iOS comes with a mail client. It connects to my exchange, gmail and Zoho accounts. You don’t install gmail, you connect a mail client to it or visit it in a web browser.
And a great email client at that. Both iOS and macOS's. I can't imagine trading it for some web UI.
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I've been very happy with Protonmail, you can even use your old Gmail address from within Protonmail [0]. Although arguable doing that is counter productive, you want receive gmails but reply with you new address -> Yes this is the time to buy a domain and own an address for the rest of your life, so you can move again with little pain in the future ;) [0] https://proton.me/blog/proton-mail-connect-gmail
My problem with protonmail (and telegram) is that in my country, only scammers use those two services. So when I encounter these, I immediately distrust the person I'm interacting with and assume the worst. Even my one neighbor uses it and I distrust him immensely as he is not tech savvy yet he uses proton... its strange. How does he even know about it? He and his wife are not forth coming about what they do for a li…
>How does he even know about it?
Maybe google locked their account.
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Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.
Every desktop mail client is bad in its own way. And then I have to set it up on all computers I use. Web UI just works.
Guess you've tried every desktop mail client?
I only use one computer and my local mail app (macOS's in my case) just works. I can't imagine trading it for visiting some web site to read my email.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#609Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…
As a Fastmail user, every time I have to use Gmail for work I'm aggravated by the absolute stupid UX of it which seems to have been thoroughly ruined around the Material Design era; it also seems to be unable to handle basic operations such as mass mark read or delete, or search. Fastmail handles the same things with aplomb and has much better screen real estate usage, for one. The only thing I kind of want with Fast…
I went with Fastmail just because it's not hosted in the US (they're in Australia)
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> but ALL class action or settlement related emails get automatically chucked into to my gmail spam folder Every now and then I get a glut of “if you bought X in timeframe Y you might be due a pay-out” junk mail, so this might be genuine false positives rather than something more sinister. Though the cynic in me, that has been right so many times over the years wrt corporate behaviour, is inclined to agree with your…
There is exactly zero chance the gmail team is unaware that epiqnotice.com is a legitimate sender of class action messages and getting falsely blocked.
But there is a non-zero chance that the false blocking can happen without any human intervention.