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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by anal_reactor »

butlike wrote: post #362

I agree and on my death bed I'm going to realize I spent my life working from home, talking to a machine, and not enriching any person's life directly. It's just so gruesomely LONELY.

Yeah but that's because people suck so fucking much.

1. "Sorry can't come" an hour after we were supposed to meet - this alone kills 80% of my friendships

2. "I like edgy humor" and then a month later "I'm going to report you to HR" literally had this happen to me

3. Most people have very little depth and stick to superficial smalltalk, which I find very exhausting

And when on top of that you say "I wish my friend had similar values and enjoyed at least one common hobby" then it's basically over. Not to mention the fact that most people aren't open to new friendships. If they're married then they straight up say "wife doesn't allow", if they're not then it's "yeah let's grab a coffee someday".

My motto is "if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go alone" because trying to be cooperative with people has never yielded me better results than just doing the shit on my own.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by dnpls »

The worst part of this is the person that doesn't even bother copying the text, rather just screenshot the AI answer and send it. That's the new lowest level of not giving a crap about the question.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by kraquepype »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #414

I have five Gen-Z kids that are pushing back on GenAI hard and they claim their peers are getting angry about how it’s impacted their lives. As a technologist I tend to lean into new things rapidly because that’s how I’ve survived in IT for so long. Since I’m not ready to retire I still have a vested interest in staying informed. But the OP has definitely identified a psychological issue I think we’re all going throu…

My oldest is on the tail end of Gen-Z and is vehemently anti-AI. This isn't a position I've been vocal about, she just kind of expressed her disdain for it one day.

I've been in IT a while, and am more of an AI skeptic - but I'm OK with it being used as a tool where it makes sense in my field, and it certainly has some value.... but shoehorning it into everything and using it as a general replacement for human creativity is a no-go for me.

It's a relief to know GenZ is feeling this way, and I hope having an entire generation against it will help pump the brakes a bit.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by boelboel »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #230
jvanderbot wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I hate about this whole thing, is that there are many reasons someone might reach out to a coworker with questions. Not all require the knowledge in fancy markdown with emojis. Maybe they want to show respect to a person by asking their opinion before proceeding with a change Maybe they want to share context and make that person aware of what they're thinking without being so obvious Maybe they need _that person…

I’m pretty sure the amount of care for fellow coworkers is normally distributed… so it makes sense the way below average just do that. Heck the bottom decile would probably directly tell folks to pound sand if they could get away with it.

I doubt it's normally distributed, if you look at displays of altruism in general you got outliers who will give a lot more to charity, help more in volunteer work... but also many that don't do anything. Obviously that's not the same as caring about fellow coworkers but if I were to guess it would follow this sort of distribution more if you have a good measure for 'caring'.

I would also believe certain subgroups of workers to be more or less caring. Maybe early joiners care more about coworkers, those which have been there the longest, the ones WFH the least, religious upbringing vs non religious. Coworkers are a pretty heterogeneous groups in many companies.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by winter_blue »

dabbledash wrote: post #113
hypfer wrote: post #26

AI has "just" greatly accelerated/amplified dysfunction that was already there previously. Even before AI, you often weren't truly talking with other real people on the web. Even if it was an actual human that responded, online tribalism led to erasure of said human-ness. So from that standpoint, being exhausted by not talking to real humans might be good or at least necessary.

The sad thing is it happens in real life too. You'll talk to people and it's like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe's Talking Point of The Day. You have to just wait for them to get it out and then you can talk to the real person again.

> You'll talk to people and it's like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe's Talking Point of The Day.

This is so true.

So many people just parrot whatever nonsensical talking point they heard.

Regurgitating things without an ounce of reflection or critical thought.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

js8 wrote: post #181
sschueller wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them. I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first. EDIT: By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover…

LMGTFY is an ironic jab, not a suggestion. > if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first It's actually the other way around. You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Why do you think I am asking - because I think you have a better answer than I can get from Google or AI. But this is where it's apparently going. We will all talk to AI rather than each other. And we will…

Then we should create LMGPTTFY, then it's at least apparent and the recipient needn't click.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by dbalatero »

lazystar wrote: post #571
sixtyj wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would rather hear the answer “I don’t know. I had to look it up.” (And I don’t care what you have used as sources, as citing counts with norms/laws or in academics.) If you really rewrite LLM’s response in your own words, I will know that you have learnt something. Because if you tell me directly that you have asked Claude, next time I will probably ask Claude directly as I don’t need you. And we won’t be able to d…

> Because if you tell me directly that you have asked Claude, next time I will probably ask Claude directly as I don’t need you. and what if i tell you i asked stack overflow?

I mean it was always easy enough to say "Hey not quite sure but I did find this post on SO, in case it helps"

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by sfink »

rpdillon wrote: post #396
randallsquared wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Long experience. There are a lot of people out there in the workforce who ask their boss or a more senior coworker a question the moment they think of it, with no attempt to find the answer via tools at their disposal. Maybe not as many as 80%, as implied by @sdoering below in a sibling thread, but quite a few.

Indeed - I had a team that called this "remote brain execution" (we were a build team that used Bazel, and often fielded questions about why someone's build broke). My favorite phrase on that team was "What have you tried so far?"

Ironically, I have to edit out my "what I have tried so far" when asking questions, because I'm more likely to go into a long-winded explanation of the headers that I hacked and the kernel module I installed to fake my way around this or that, when the actual answer tends to be "uh... are you sure you're building the code you think you are? That sounds like you're running from the wrong directory or wrong branch."

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by asim »

Every so often there is a trend and a hype cycle. It eventually dissipates. There's value in what gets built but it also becomes the silver bullet or the hammer used for everything. In 2-3 years it's going to die off, it becomes the norm technology trend but it's also part of a larger suite of foundational tooling, meaning so much of it is going to fade into the background and we're going to get back to good old problem solving. Doesn't mean we shouldn't learn and understand but yes we're all going to get burned out on AI chatter.
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