Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid • Hacker News Board

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Post by GJim » Tue, May 19, 2026, 8:10 AM UTC

M95D wrote: post #565

GJim wrote: post #531

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What you are referring to is legal court ordered surveillance, which requires a warrant. This is nothing whatsoever to do with allowing anybody who pays (such as adtech) a free reign over your private data to do what they like with!

Requires a warrant officialy .

Jesus wept!

So you think this is an excuse to let the adtech industry treat you like shit, invading your privacy and selling your private data unrestrained?

Seriously?

The shear lack of ethics and opposition to data protection law on here is unreal. One would almost think your salaries depend on opposing it!

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Post by mring33621 » Tue, May 19, 2026, 2:59 PM UTC

MSKJ wrote: post #554

mring33621 wrote: post #544

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But they get mad when you tell them that their processes are Kafkaesque! Ask me how I know.

How do you know?

I was scolded by my manager, who finished with the cliche, "we are open to suggestions for improvements"

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Post by bdamm » Wed, May 20, 2026, 4:38 AM UTC

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #516

bdamm wrote: post #367

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My car has AEB and it's great. I'll never drive another car without it. Why not take the energy out of the impact? Humans aren't perfect, and even less so as we age.

What impact? Why do you think it's great?

"Impact" as in an inevitable crash. I like it because it has unquestionably caused the avoidance of two cases where my car would have hit something. Once when I was merging onto a freeway and the car ahead of me basically brakechecked panic'd at the last second while I was briefly looking over my shoulder at the traffic I was merging into, and the other when a friend of mine borrowed my car and nearly hit a deer. Both cases the AEB kicked in, the car came to a very aggressive halt, and the crash was avoided. Yes, the AEB has kicked in at other times, but on the whole, it's been great and I appreciate having it. Probably other manufacturers have different implementations and different experiences. Mine is a Tesla.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Post by sailfast » Fri, May 22, 2026, 2:25 PM UTC

GJim wrote: post #483

sailfast wrote: post #482

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Sure, and Volkswagen’s diesel cars are totally clean and pass emissions tests as written. Your trust in the law (EU law! Haha) to do the enforcing itself is nice, but history and lived experience tell me that these laws are going to be skirted if there’s money in it.

Sorry, I missed the bit where the company was fined, prosecuted, suffered a consumer backlash and subsequently brought their behaviour into check. Honestly, the number of people on here spreading FUD and defending the 'right' for the adtech industry to invade their private lives and treat them like shit is unreal. One could almost think their salaries are dependent on it!

Where are the fines for the tech companies breaking the law? I’ll look on my end as well, but if they’re not being fined more than they’re making by breaking the law your data is still going to leave your vehicle.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Post by sailfast » Fri, May 22, 2026, 2:27 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #515

GJim wrote: post #483

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Sorry, I missed the bit where the company was fined, prosecuted, suffered a consumer backlash and subsequently brought their behaviour into check. Honestly, the number of people on here spreading FUD and defending the 'right' for the adtech industry to invade their private lives and treat them like shit is unreal. One could almost think their salaries are dependent on it!

Happens every time EU/Europe is mentioned, and most of it is sadly based around misconceptions and misunderstandings. It's a shame, because in general HN tends to be well informed, but something about EU/Europe seems to make most commentators switch to "knee-jerk reactions" reply mode, rather than the usual thoughtful discussions.

I’m assuming you are European? Do you get the impression that the EU parliament is a body that is respected across Europe as competent and able to enforce laws reliably and properly? It can’t even keep the bloc together.

I’m not skeptical of Europe - but I’ve studied governments long enough to know that it’s hard to enforce these things at any sort of reasonable cost / level. You need to be defensive in your thinking, and the FUD here is completely reasonable.