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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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650 wrote: post #138
mister_mort wrote: post #41

This is pumping someone's metrics up inside of Microsoft, somewhere . The question is - will their boss revert it or encourage it when they discover the source of the stats being juiced?

A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ This is the author of the MR - https://github.com/cwebster-99 - A Product Manager at Microslop I've routinely spoken on the uselessness, and oftentimes detriment of product managers in tech. The dearth of leadership driving for vanity metrics like PMs writing code doesn't help either.

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by heisenbit »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #281
yankohr wrote: post #84

This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…

And also those early Spotify days where Spotify would automatically post what you’re listening to to your Facebook wall. I’ve always seen that practice of using the user as your recommendation lever without their consent as unethical.

My suspicion is that it violates the users copyright on their commit message.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

carschno wrote: post #599
shaky-carrousel wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The industry spent decades preaching us about power savings, with Microsoft settings application lecturing about power saves and the update app programming them on renewables peak, only for... wasting gigawatts by forcing us to have copilot everywhere. If Microsoft were consistent, which isn't, power saving mode would disable AI features.

In literally must have missed that. When did Microsoft ever encourage energy saving? Is this related to power saving for extending laptop battery runtime? But then I don't get the link to renewable energy. Anyway, I agree with the notion of the extreme energy-inefficiency of LLMs. The scale of it makes it hard to imagine any less efficient product will ever be invented.

They literally have a green leaf next to power saving options. Also, there's an option in windows upgrades to time the upgrades to when the grid is mostly renewables.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by matheusmoreira »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #521
matheusmoreira wrote: post #483

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And engineers couldn't get rich themselves without the billionaires shelling out for them to build their torment nexuses. I want to get rich too. I want to live a good life, and provide for my family. I don't want to just survive. So I can't say I don't empathize.

Which would be fine if the only two choices were build the torment nexus or starve. But it's not the only source of income out there.

Yeah, maybe you won't "starve"... But will you live? Or will you merely survive? If that?

It's not looking too good out there. We've got trillionaires bragging to people's faces about how they're all going to be replaced by their AIs. It got to the point someone threw a molotov into one CEO's home.

Source of income? The promise of AI is to literally make all humans economically redundant. In a capitalist world, what is the point of keeping economically useless people alive? People who do nothing but cost society money? Why not turn them all into soylent instead?

If we don't create a post-scarcity society now, I'm not sure we ever will. Choices aren't looking too good out there.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by jdenning »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

What is the use-case where you expect users would be happy that you modify their commit messages with MS marketing? Do you think it would be ok to edit every commit to append “written with VS Code”?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by boxed »

alemanek wrote: post #409
dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Changing the default behavior for all of your users with no notification is pretty unforgivable. Even if this feature worked correctly, it obviously doesn’t, this should at minimum be a prompt after upgrade to let the user confirm that this is what they want. But honestly should be opt in for those that want it. To have it silently just start adding marketing copy to git commit messages is pretty bad. To have that ad…

> Changing the default behavior for all of your users with no notification is pretty unforgivable.

What does that even mean? The git log exists. Do you mean they should shove the entire git log in the face of every user on every update?

Obviously this change was a massive fuckup, but that sentence makes absolutely no sense.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by yreg »

macic wrote: post #600
dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

> There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. Can you expand on this? Who "expects" their code editor to lie about using Copilot?

The supposedly expected functionality is very obviously that it marks copilot co-authored code as copilot co-authored, not the bug that is being reverted.
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