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Re: Zed 1.0

#601

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Oh no.. fuck them, not this shit again.. With AI being so good why isn't someone making fully open source alternatives to all this crap by now? Oh Zed is open source, maybe Codex/Claude can make a VSCodium-like fork off it?

> With AI being so good why isn't someone... It baffles me that people ask this question all the time and it never occurs to them that perhaps the answer is "because it isn't".

> perhaps the answer is "because it isn't"

I'm sure it can handle "remove all instances of telemetry"

Re: Zed 1.0

#602
i have been a zed junkie since it came out. i feel very happy for the team. and they seem to be very focused and disciplined about what they are building. it makes me feel like i am making the right bet!

Re: Zed 1.0

#603
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Congrats! My daily driver is Zed developing on SSH remote servers on exe.dev. It's crazy to think of all the dev tools I've churned through over the last 18 months but these two feel sticky. Zed has everything I need in a unified pane. File editor, terminal, agents, SSH remotes. And it's fast and intuitive exe.dev is the first "dev container" I've ever *loved*. The remote sandbox means `dangerously-skip-permissions`…

I'm glad to hear the SSH remote editing is working well. A lot of the time I'm developing on a remote server using VSCode Remote-SSH. I mostly love it. But! It consumes a lot of memory. And not only that. At times it gets stuck in some infinite loop or such, and ends up consuming all memory on the machine, preventing all traffic. Takes a few minutes for the OS to finally kill it, so I can get back in. I'm pretty this…

Actually, inspired by this, I went ahead and installed Zed to try it out. After a couple of hours of working remotely using Zed, I'm impressed. It actually works, and the experience feels great. Only little issue was that when I first opened the remote folder, I was greeted with a blank window. I thought it was stuck loading and was about to give up, but turns out I had to open the project panel myself to see the files. Otherwise, working fine so far! Memory-wise it's practically free.

EDIT: Scrap that. After a while it starts running at 100% CPU on my macbook. I'm editing a small, simple PHP remotely over SSH. I haven't yet tested if it only happens with remote editing. Too bad... Well, at least it didn't trash the server like VSCode.

EDIT: Logs showed it was trying to do some auto suggestions every few seconds, but failed due to missing credentials. Didn't seem like something that would eat up 100%, but after disabling all AI features (I'm glad there was an option for this), the problem disappeared, and I'm happy with Zed again.

Re: Zed 1.0

#604

Congrats to the Zed team for building the best modern editor I have ever used. I subscribe to the monthly plan just to give you guys the funding you need, even if my funding is a tiny drop in the bucket. I always wanted a feature rich alternative to Sublime Text that can run anywhere and do basically anything I need from it. I've use JetBrains IDEs for years (been subscribed annually since 2017), but since Zed I have…

I've always thought of Zed as a good Sublime Text alternative. I can tinker with and potentially break my Neovim config, but I'll have Zed as a backup for when I need to do a quick edit. Their Vim mode is the best I've used outside of JetBrains (or Vim itself).

If you break your Neovim config, you can always just run `nvim --clean`

Re: Zed 1.0

#605

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I've always thought of Zed as a good Sublime Text alternative. I can tinker with and potentially break my Neovim config, but I'll have Zed as a backup for when I need to do a quick edit. Their Vim mode is the best I've used outside of JetBrains (or Vim itself).

If you break your Neovim config, you can always just run `nvim --clean`

Sure but that turns my IDE into a text editor, where as Zed is a great backup IDE.

Re: Zed 1.0

#606
I want to love Zed. I really do. I like how fast and performant it is. Few UI things are a nightmare, though:

1. Zed insists on opening files in the active panel AND Terminal opens in a panel -> I constantly open files over my terminal. Arghh.

2. On macOS, when I open another workspace (e.g. by drag and dropping to the app in the dock but also from CLI), it opens in one of the existing windows in a sort of workspace-level tab (?). I want a window per workspace. No way to configure that (or it is so unclear that I could never find it).

Bonus: I want code in a light scheme and terminal in a dark scheme. It is stupid, but my eyes just start hurting otherwise. I created a custom color scheme for that and it sort of works, BUT Zed seem to do some additional post-processing to colors based on the scheme-wide light/dark setting, so I cannot get the colors quite right. If I set scheme to "light" – terminal colors are a bit off. If I set to "dark" – code editor is off, cannot get it fixed with scheme level overrides.

Re: Zed 1.0

#607
post #511

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AI tab completion and agentic edits are often derivative works.

But should they own any rights on these outputs and edits done to your source code?

They don't. Paragraph 4.2, "Customer's Ownership of Output" [0]. I recite verbatim below for the sake of clarity.

These are about processing the data, not owning it. They need to process the data eg to provide llm-based tab-completion. A completion is derivative work, and it is also owned by the customer, as it says below.

[0] https://zed.dev/terms#42-customers-ownership-of-output

> The Service may generate specifically for, and make available to, Customer text and written content based on or in response to Customer Data input into the Service (collectively, “Output”), including through the use of technologies that incorporate or rely upon artificial intelligence, machine learning techniques, and other similar technology and features. As between the Parties, to the greatest extent permitted by applicable Laws, Customer owns all Output and Zed hereby irrevocably assigns to Customer all right, title, and interest in and to the Output that Zed may possess. For the avoidance of doubt, Zed and its AI Providers will not retain or use Customer Data for the purpose of improving or training the Service or any AI Provider products, except to the extent Customer explicitly opts-in on Zed’s specific feature to allow training and/or such improvement (such as fine-tuning) and is solely for the benefit of Customer.

Re: Zed 1.0

#608
I used the fastest editor I've ever used, and the UI design was also very good, but the Git interface didn't show the commit history, which was a bit like JetBrains' Git interface.

Re: Zed 1.0

#609
post #455

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Apparently you can do: "telemetry": { "diagnostics": false, "metrics": false }

The telemetry section of the TOS explicitly clarifies that that does not restrict their ability to use the data that is sent to them. > Customer may configure the Software to opt out of the collection of certain Telemetry Processed locally by the Software itself, but Zed may still collect, generate, and Process Telemetry on Zed’s servers. Note that they have (or did have, I haven't used their editor in awhile) an AI…

What I understand reading this is that if you use their online services, incl AI-agents, llm based tab-completion, auto-updates etc, you send data to their servers, and on that part they run analytics. Frankly, this is what I would expect anyway, ie if I disable telemetry locally, it would affect what I do locally, ie no data about how I use my software locally would leave the machine, but if I sent data to some server I would not expect people not to run analytics on their servers.

> AI tab completion feature... it's safe to assume that all of the code you edit is sent to them

Yes, this is quite obvious, how else could they provide AI tab completion? I hope anybody understands this before using sth like this. They do specify that "[...] telemetry expressly does not include Customer Data" though.

Re: Zed 1.0

#610

I quite like Zed, I've consistently driven it for months at a time. But there are two things that add enough friction that over that month or so I end up bailing back to one of my other editors (vscode/neovim). The search experience being a new tab with no sidebar option and the diff viewer being a multibuffer view with no option to see the entire contents of a file you are diffing. That being said, I love the softwa…

These are also two of my primary gripes. There has been substantial improvement, but the search and symbol follow UX is really bad. Hoping the fix that.

Not trying to promote too much I don't even get anything out of it, but I've been using a slopfork for a while now and it's great. A few flaws obviously since slopped over the weekend, but it's good enough.

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/26560#issuecomm...

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