US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

Post by bko » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 4:33 PM UTC

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You're apply the oppressor–oppressed framework. Basically Madura and his regime, along with Gaza, West Bank and others are the victims because they're less powerful and therefore above reproach? However US and Israel are currently powerful and therefore they are the only ones worthy of criticism and scorn? Gaza, for instance, is famously anti kidnapping.

I think it's more a case of allies and enemies. Second the west likes to take the moral high ground. That involves holding them to a higher standard. Third, in cases such as Gaza, and the west bank, they don't have stable governments because of actions by Israel. You can't expect them to behave like a nation state in those circumstances, so yes I do expect more of Israel. Fwiw I'm British, I remember the troubles on…

Post by PenguinCoder » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 4:37 PM UTC

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regularization wrote: post #488

Corruption means something legitimate is happening that can be corrupted. Maduro was president of a sovereign country. A bunch of kidnappers and murderers invaded the building he was in in Caracas, murdered everyone in the room, then kidnapped him and his wife. What's the "mission"? To pop up in some room and slaughter everyone in it, then kidnap his wife and him? In order to help steal the resources, billions of dol…

If you think Hamas, the Islamic Republic, and Maduro are/were peace-loving good guys, I have a bridge to sell you. Whatever you think about the US, anyone who isn’t drowning in propaganda must know that those guys are at best no better, and they don’t have even a facade of a justice system that people wronged by those governments can turn to for relief. For instance, the moment the Gaza ceasefire allowed Hamas to con…

Post by ErneX » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 4:41 PM UTC

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I guess thats one way to look at it. But thats morality for you. I'd just suggest maybe get less involved with the internet and as the kids say these days 'go touch some grass'. Because, frankly, I don't think the average, or even marginal Venezuelan would agree with you at all, as, they have actually had to deal with this dictator.

> Because, frankly, I don't think the average, or even marginal Venezuelan would agree with you at all, as, they have actually had to deal with this dictator. why do you think that? when was the last time you were in venezuela? first you tell someone to get off the internet for a bit and touch grass, then you gesture vaguely at what you think... which came from where exactly? different parts of the internet? cable ne…

Post by ErneX » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 4:49 PM UTC

regularization wrote: post #488

Corruption means something legitimate is happening that can be corrupted. Maduro was president of a sovereign country. A bunch of kidnappers and murderers invaded the building he was in in Caracas, murdered everyone in the room, then kidnapped him and his wife. What's the "mission"? To pop up in some room and slaughter everyone in it, then kidnap his wife and him? In order to help steal the resources, billions of dol…

Post by Forgeties79 » Fri, Apr 24, 2026, 4:52 PM UTC

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Honest question: Would you feel similarly if the shoe were on the other foot? If we had a hostile presidential takeover and another country, for reasons completely unrelated to that , showed up at the WH and executed this kind of “mission”? Maduro was a piece of…let’s keep this polite and say “work.” Everyone agrees. Does that mean what the US did was acceptable? There’s a lot of nuance and context being glossed over…

I thought that already happened in the US and that's how we ended up with this current mess..?