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Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by shiroiuma »

deathanatos wrote: post #587
shiroiuma wrote: post #568

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You're overinflating your tires. A lower pressure will increase your speed and efficiency unless you're riding in a velodrome. Here's a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r8f3w89XeM (watch out, there's a lot of extra stuff in this video about the machine they use to measure efficiency)

(Well, they should tell the manufacturers…) The video's result for both tires they tested was peak efficiency at 5 bar. They had a really coarse sampling of a whole bar, so that works out to a pressure of 65–80 psi.

>(Well, they should tell the manufacturers…)

The manufacturer rating is likely a max allowable pressure rating.

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Post by Joe_Cool »

Swizec wrote: post #598
Joe_Cool wrote: post #593

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Honking is more for the people behind/around me. I also don't want to be hit by inattentive people following me to closely. May I ask where you are riding? I am currently in Bavaria. The danger level is usually higher after the winter. Drivers need to re-accustom themselves to sharing the road with two wheeled riders. Evasive action could be even more dangerous in cities. In my experience being able to come to a stop…

> May I ask where you are riding? San Francisco Bay Area. I never got into motorcycling back in Europe although the roads are lovely, the short riding season felt like a deterrent. Also the extremely long process to get a license. Here in CA it was almost scary easy to get M certified.

Must be cool to have bike weather all year round. ;)

Yeah, snow and scooter/motorcycle is not a great mix here. But touring the Alps down to Lake Garda was amazing. Can recommend.

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Post by npunt »

allenu wrote: post #562
npunt wrote: post #551

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Yeah a lot of this is a very very cleaned up, performative version of design process. It's like its own subgenre. Original thinking is wild, feral, messy, often solo tho heavily influenced by the context around you. None of that presents well. However I bristle at the idea that core design decisions are usually super obvious, even when the end results are. Not sure this is even your point so forgive the tangent if no…

I'm in total agreement regarding some designs that seem obvious later but really took several iterations to reach. There's definitely hindsight bias when a design works so well that it feels obvious. My point was more that I've seen product demos where parts of a product were presented as having been pored over painstakingly when in reality it was decided on day one that it would work that way. However, because it's…

A magic trick is a good way to put it, especially for laypeople. I see your point and agree, it's always hard to know going in which ideas you're going to one-shot (and be slightly embarrassed about having one-shotted) and which only come from the courage to kill early darlings and continue down the road of uncertainty.

We're fortunate if we even get that latter opportunity, given most want to take the easy path and cargo cult someone else's idea. The thing I've noticed is that the hard path to continue the exploration often gives the cargo cult answer but with a nuance or two for one's context that make all the difference. I'm curious if you have experienced that as well.

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Post by npunt »

downthefoxhole wrote: post #560
npunt wrote: post #551

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Yeah a lot of this is a very very cleaned up, performative version of design process. It's like its own subgenre. Original thinking is wild, feral, messy, often solo tho heavily influenced by the context around you. None of that presents well. However I bristle at the idea that core design decisions are usually super obvious, even when the end results are. Not sure this is even your point so forgive the tangent if no…

> People see something obvious and say "That's simple, I could have come up with that!" That's the problem with user interface design as a career. It takes a lot of effort to create simple to understand and simple to use design, and then when users see them, they see it is simple and think it must have been easy to do. Most programmers tend to make programs for themselves and other technical people and has horrible d…

Indeed. UI/UX is actually a pretty shitty career unless you are good enough to regularly pull rabbits out of your hat. At the low end it's just drawing boxes and using someone else's tricks in a system that isn't even the codebase. At the mid end you get the codebase and might occasionally solve interesting problems, but you'll rarely get the recognition and influence equal to its value. Only at the high end do you start getting the rewards, but they tend not to last very long because people quickly adapt to seeing your solutions as obvious.

It's why designers, and creatives more generally, try to cultivate a mystique around themselves, even(/especially?) when they're only mid. The truth is creative work is a lot more playful than it is mysterious, but play is not valued, only mystery is. This leaves many creatives stuck in tension between their internal and external identities.

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Post by broken-kebab »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #174
broken-kebab wrote: post #148

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You are answering different question. What you are saying is called awareness campaign or something. Enforcement of seatbelts is done by police with fines/tickets and is possible cause it's visible from outside. Other things like loudness levels inside cars cannot be monitored without going in full totalitarian mode.

Why would enforcement be necessary, given assumptions 1 and 2 (not stupid, not murderers), and awareness? Around these parts, seatbelt enforcement isn't necessary because everyone voluntarily wears their seatbelt – except for children, occasionally, but the adults are generally capable of enforcing that. (Even teenagers / young adults being irresponsible in cars generally wear seatbelts while doing so.)

Cause humans works that way. We don't calculate risks based on statistics in everyday life. That means you can't just make people aware, you need to build cultural norm around that. But cultural norms without enforcement are easy to erode. When norm is systematically broken it ceases to be norm.

>seatbelt enforcement isn't necessary because everyone voluntarily wears their seatbelt

You obviously don't travel much. There are whole countries where seatbelts are rarely used, and drivers buy special plugs for belt receptacles to silence beeping.

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Post by Cub3 »

jmalicki wrote: post #480

Is there an interpretation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act where using this bicycle bell to circumvent the computer system used in your headphones for active noise cancellation would be a federal felony in the United States?

Now that is an interesting question

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Post by keane »

Coeur wrote: post #357

This seems to be part of a type of brand marketing where a brand claims it has invented something, but the only thing that ever exists of significant economic value is the attention raised by the promo video / article. Not the thing/service. Examples: - Samsung safety truck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GNGfse9ZK8 - Citroën motion sickness glasses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aco63dlq_WE - Amazon Prime Air http…

Their dealers already sell a bike bell, eg. in NZ at https://store.skoda.co.nz/products/bicycle-bell

and in IE at https://www.skoda-accessories.ie/ie/en/p/bicycle-bell/SK-000...

There is a Czech shop listing for the old bell at https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/en_CZ/bicycle-bell/p/000050305C

Presumably the new bell will eventually appear among the other items at https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/en_CZ/cycling-accessories/c/cycl... and in their bike order catalog PDF at https://www.skoda-auto.com/services/bikes-cycling

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Post by keane »

MoonWalk wrote: post #450
Coeur wrote: post #357

This seems to be part of a type of brand marketing where a brand claims it has invented something, but the only thing that ever exists of significant economic value is the attention raised by the promo video / article. Not the thing/service. Examples: - Samsung safety truck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GNGfse9ZK8 - Citroën motion sickness glasses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aco63dlq_WE - Amazon Prime Air http…

I think you nailed it. You can't even buy this bike bell, as far as I can see.

It may get added to https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/en_CZ/cycling-accessories/c/cycl...

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Post by bmicraft »

embedding-shape wrote: post #426
bmicraft wrote: post #417

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You can turn up your car stereo and mow over pedestrians undisturbed in your two ton death machine yet I'm not allowed to cycle on a bicycle-only path with with a podcast and transparency mode enabled? For my own safety? Safety from car drivers that fell asleep driving with their stereo on?

Don't know where you live, but where I live it isn't legal to play so loud music that you cannot hear the outside, especially if it's so loud you cannot hear other car horns. So no, neither should be allowed, because again, we use our hearing when we're in traffic to help our other senses. Mostly for others safety, and I guess if it helps you; for your safety too.

I never said loud. Comfortable podcast listening volume in both cases.
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