It seems like they are suffering from compute problems bcs they are not only allowing OpenClaw but also limiting the chats
Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#602Earlier quoted context omitted.
You aren't paying to be using that limit all of the time. You are paying to be using that limit some of the time. There are 5 hour windows when you are sleeping and can't use it. There are weekend limits. Theoretically you can max out every 5 hour window, but they lose money on that. It's structured so users can have bursts of unlimited usage, and spend ~15% of the theoretical max cap, and that's still cheaper than a…
> Theoretically you can max out every 5 hour window, but they lose money on that. This typically results in a ban for TOS violations after a few windows in a row on a claude subscription
I have maxed out my 5 hour limits and my weekly limits fairly regularly, when I did a bunch of editing work on long form writing next to having CC run a few coding tasks over the xmas holidys - I only slept a few hours at night an timed those roughly (by chance) with my limits.
I neither got a warning or a ban or anything - and that was with the double token amount during those days.
So I don't see human usage being something they ban for TOS violation, like you describe. But as always YMMV.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#603Literally :rofl: here. About all the people panicking that they suddenly can’t work anymore. Come on, how did you work and develop three years ago without AI? If you can’t program or understand code without an LLM you should maybe switch careers and not call yourself engineers. In the meantime, I have never touched Claude, Copilot, or what not, and continue to write my low level code used in real engineering and manufacturing plants as well as science labs. And since most/all of this isn’t really working through/with AI (as some colleagues in the field have tried and miserably failed) I can increase my rates and have started to charge a good amount more from clients. As they can’t find people anymore that are willing to understand the problems and deliver working code. The people are busy trying to get AI work in the my field instead of doing the real work that is asked. Literally :rofl: on how AI makes me more money without having to use and touch it. If this continues as it does, I might be able to retire soon (40s) and go back to study physics as I did and maybe engage in some theoretical physics PHD (self financed).
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#604Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm taking a bet on local models to do the non genius work. Gemma 4 (released yesterday) has been designed to run on laptops / edge devices....and so far is running pretty well for me.
How’s Gemma 4 been?
Edge models are good for their purpose but putting them in agentic flow with current ollama quants on a Mac Mini I see high tool use error rate and output hallucination.
For JSON to text formatting it works well on a one-round basis. So I think you should realistically have an evaluation ready to go so you can use it on these models. I currently judge them myself but people often use a smart LLM as judge.
Today writing eval harness with Claude is 5 min job. Do it yourself so you can explore as quants on Gemma get better.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#605I’m feel like the decent AI models are going to become out of reach for normal people soon enough.
Even the $20 subscription is ridiculously limited and they keep adding more and more limits. The $200 a month sub is insane and only going to get worse and yet still limited
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#606Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Power users and users of stuff like OpenClaw don't match that idea. Then they should figure out how to structure an offering that accommodates this type of usage not just blanket ban it
Why "should" they? There's no reason they would especially when their competitor now owns OpenClaw.
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Why "should" they?
Because it is clear that there is a market demand for it.
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#607Wellll, that rug aint gonna pull itself, now is it? Ive been calling for local LLM as owning the means of production. I aint wrong.
Not as simple as that. Everyone would happily use local, but the issue is local sucks.
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#608"We dont crash ever" -- the social network. If you haven't been paying attention anthropic burned a lot of their developer good will in the last 2 weeks, with some combination of bugs and rate limits. But the writing is on the wall about how bad things are behind the scenes. The circa 2002 sentiment filter regex in their own tool should have been a major clue about where things stand. The question every one should be…
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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#609Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Theoretically you can max out every 5 hour window, but they lose money on that. This typically results in a ban for TOS violations after a few windows in a row on a claude subscription
I have maxed out my 5 hour limits and my weekly limits fairly regularly, when I did a bunch of editing work on long form writing next to having CC run a few coding tasks over the xmas holidys - I only slept a few hours at night an timed those roughly (by chance) with my limits. I neither got a warning or a ban or anything - and that was with the double token amount during those days. So I don't see human usage being…
Was this on a new (few months) or significantly older account?
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