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Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Tim from the Copilot coding agent team here. We've now disabled these tips in pull requests created by or touched by Copilot, so you won't see this happen again for future PRs. We've been including product tips in PRs created by Copilot coding agent. The goal was to help developers learn new ways to use the agent in their workflow. But hearing the feedback here, and on reflection, this was the wrong judgement call. W…

Huge miss. Again. And again. And again.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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This "ad" is not exactly new. Looks like MS thinks it's a "tip" rather than an ad. I don't know if Raycast team even knows about this. https://github.com/PlagueHO/plagueho.github.io/pull/24#issue... Copilot has been adding "(emoji) (tip)" thing since May 2025. GitHub copilot was released in May 2025, so basically it has had an ad since beginning. There are 1.5m of these things in GitHub. https://github.com/search?q=%…

This does not look like random chance. It's a pattern of behavior.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Absolutely my bad it came across like this.

I appreciate the reply. As mentioned, it happens unintentionally. One way to describe the (desired) HN community is everyone learning together how to avoid unintended effects.

> everyone learning together how to avoid unintended effects.

Okay, but when will Microsoft?

Or is it a more charitable interpretation to suggest they did intend this to be the effect?

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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GP did not personally attack or denigrate the person they were replying to. As the dozens of other comments show, the overwhelming majority of us do not believe the root commentors claims, and this PM quite objectively does not have the leverage and authority to back their claim that they won’t let this happen again. It’s hard not to read your conception of “trying for something different” as granting undue credulity…

I understand, and I don't want to see ads in such contexts either. But "nobody believes this" is of course a personal attack, and "you don't have the power to [do what you just said you will do]" is pretty aggressive too. The impulse to hit back against what is perceived as a "transparently dishonest corporate actor" is natural and human. I feel it also, and in fact my first response when I read such comments is alwa…

> The impulse to hit back against what is perceived as a "transparently dishonest corporate actor" is natural and human.

Honest question: If we agree that the transparent dishonesty and the lynch mob behavior are both undesirable, how do you think the two should be balanced in operative terms?

I don’t want to put words in your mouth — but are you saying you won’t allow direct pushback to dishonest corporate actors??

My view is that healthy discourse requires balance and proportionality: flagrant dishonesty, as is the case here, should license a proportional degree of pushback.

I don’t agree at all that “nobody believes this” is quite the personal attack you’re making it out to be, but I don’t care to debate that at length either.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Microslop for a while now seems to be testing exactly how much you can abuse the user before they move somewhere else. Windows is a prime example. Everything is ads, tracking, popups, annoyances, etc. They have got away with it for a while because a lot of users have largely been stuck, but they are in real trouble now with Apple providing meaningful competition.

Yeah but at least a dozen Microsoft employees went on a seemingly scripted blitz on X about how they’re ready to start listening to feedback and… * checks notes * Only have copilot shoehorned into most things instead of everything. And some shit about windows developers which isn’t exactly going to fix the glaring issues with the OS itself.

It's because of the way companies align their own behavior. "Listening to feedback" is just a good intention but increasing engagement with copilot is a measurable goal. With apologies to George Orwell, imagine an OKR stamping on a human face--forever.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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> It’s rather bold to post here… it is rather nice, honestly. would you prefer to scream into the void and not get any response at all? an open line of communication with the responsible people seems like literally the best possible option, why are you actively discouraging it? > Maybe you all want to talk to Microsoft PR/legal before posting? you would rather not hear anything, or get word-salad legalese that doesnt…

>would you prefer to scream into the void and not get any response at all?

At this point, yes. What has false platitudes done except cause more in-fighting?

>an open line of communication with the responsible people

And here's how the in-fighting begins. I'm not falling for the "they responded on social media. They're just like us!" anymore.

I don't want words, I want actions. Tired of playing whack a mole.

>you would rather not hear anything, or get word-salad legalese that doesnt mean anything?

Hearing nothing doesn't waste my time.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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We are not training on the contents of private repos, but we do plan on training on usage data with Copilot unless you opt out before April 24. Details here: https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/updates-to-gi... That post has a link to the FAQ which might also be helpful: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/188488

Why such strong opposition to getting user consent before doing any of this? Not respecting consent seems to be a very common theme with MS these days, and it really doesn't reflect well on the company or you personally.

Bypassing consent has been a very pervasive theme in tech and beyond this decade.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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If Microsoft is willing to put ads into your PRs via Copilot like this, imagine what they could put into your codebase itself with Copilot. Or what Microsoft could do, run, install, etc on/from your computer while running their Copilot agents. This is the same company that puts ads in your start menu and reinserts them with Windows updates even if you manually removed them.

I wonder if there will come a time where I can pay M$ to sabotage my competition codebase

You have to get acquired by Microsoft first.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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GP did not personally attack or denigrate the person they were replying to. As the dozens of other comments show, the overwhelming majority of us do not believe the root commentors claims, and this PM quite objectively does not have the leverage and authority to back their claim that they won’t let this happen again. It’s hard not to read your conception of “trying for something different” as granting undue credulity…

I understand, and I don't want to see ads in such contexts either. But "nobody believes this" is of course a personal attack, and "you don't have the power to [do what you just said you will do]" is pretty aggressive too. The impulse to hit back against what is perceived as a "transparently dishonest corporate actor" is natural and human. I feel it also, and in fact my first response when I read such comments is alwa…

I would say that "nobody believes this" would usually be a personal attack by default but when it's followed up with "you do not have the power to prevent it" it's not a personal attack.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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I don't put human code reviewers down as coauthors let alone the sole authors of my commit. So honestly, the fact that a vibe coded commit lists me as the author at all is a little bit dodgy but I think I'm okay with it. The LLM needs to be coauthor at least though, if not outright the author. So even if I go over the commit with a fine tooth comb and feel comfortable staking my personal reputation on the commit, I s…

The implementor only got credit in the day where the implementor was a human who had to do a lot of the work, often all of the work. Now that the cost of writing code is $0, the planner gets the credit. Like how you don't put human code reviewers down as coauthors, you also don't put the computer down as a coauthor for everything you use the computer to do. It used to be the case where if someone wrote the software,…

Characterizing it as a "shame tag" is a value judgement I simply don't share, but if that framing is made common them you're definitely asking for people to lie about it.
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