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Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by febusravenga »

tjpnz wrote: post #578
NalNezumi wrote: post #138

I sincerely hope someone in Japan or Korea get caught using those to peek under trousers on the train so it get the forced camera sound treatment of smartphones over there. So the world can label them as Hentai glasses and move on

They're not being sold in Japan and based on existing laws wouldn't last long on the market if they were. As a longterm resident of Japan this is something I'm very happy about.

Good to hear, some countries already have some privacy laws protecting is from this type of products. Anyone has share more specifics about those laws, how's that they are effective in this case (unlike GDPR which is annoying and usually toothless).

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by throwaway290 »

zer0zzz wrote: post #569
echelon wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get how private businesses allow these. It's as creepy as Google Glass, yet we don't see the same pushback. Is it because younger people don't care about privacy anymore?

The youths literally do not care from what I observe. How many people under 25 do you interact with on a day to day basis?

I know about 20 and 2 of them are without socials and even smartphones. Its a counterculture

HN is an echo chamber who can't imagine not using some tech. Normal people can...

Re: Meta’s AI smart glasses and data privacy concerns

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Post by dwayne_dibley »

echelon wrote: post #544
greentea23 wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how a parent can be OK non-consenually uploading pictures of their children's real faces to an ad driven AI company famous for abusing people's data and manipulating children on their platforms.

I don't get how private businesses allow these. It's as creepy as Google Glass, yet we don't see the same pushback. Is it because younger people don't care about privacy anymore?

Yes, the window has shifted considerably since Google glass

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Post by dataflow »

financetechbro wrote: post #112
dataflow wrote: post #13

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Yes, I'm surprised at this. I would've never expected they would be doing this , and I didn't exactly have high expectations of Meta. This is incredibly invasive and not at all what people expect.

I’m not sure what sort of signals you’ve gotten from Meta that would suggest they are above this type of behavior?

> I’m not sure what sort of signals you’ve gotten from Meta that would suggest they are above this type of behavior?

It wasn't Meta's morals that gave me any signals to that effect. It was the potential legal minefield on top of the engineering challenges [1] that made it so I didn't even consider this as a possibility. In fact I'm still confused. I don't understand how they would be pulling this off despite those challenges, and I would love to.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47225772

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Post by anhner »

Coeur wrote: post #579
jspdown wrote: post #557

Don't you need to obtain consent before filming random people in the street? I already feel uncomfortable when someone takes a photo in public and I happen to be in it, but this type of device takes things to an entirely different level. With smart glasses, there's no visible cue that you're being recorded. No phone held up, no camera in sight. I'm questioning the legality of this in Europe, where privacy laws tend t…

Many countries in Europe do indeed require consent. More details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights#France

this page is about you do with the photos, not if you are allowed to take them.

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Post by techpression »

zmmmmm wrote: post #194

I do think it's completely unacceptable if Meta makes the glasses unable to be used for routine functions without (a) other humans reviewing your private content and (b) AI training on your content. There needs to be total transparency to people when this is happening - these are absolutes. But I'm a bit confused by the article because it describes things that seem really unlikely given how the glasses work. They shi…

If anyone were to record even when the light is not shining, it would be Meta. This would not surprise me at all, they have everything to win and nothing to lose, no country would fine them anything remotely relevant compared to the value of the data they'd be getting.

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Post by tene80i »

kalaksi wrote: post #598
tene80i wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's quite an antagonistic way to request an explanation, particularly as it seems straightforward: If you needed consent to film people in the street, security cameras (in public places) couldn't be used. They _are_ used. So it must not be the case that you need consent to film people in the street. Assuming there is not just widespread lawbreaking, I suppose.

That depends on who has set up the security camera and what area it covers.

How so? You mean businesses vs private individuals filming the street? Or police, for example?

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

jspdown wrote: post #557

Don't you need to obtain consent before filming random people in the street? I already feel uncomfortable when someone takes a photo in public and I happen to be in it, but this type of device takes things to an entirely different level. With smart glasses, there's no visible cue that you're being recorded. No phone held up, no camera in sight. I'm questioning the legality of this in Europe, where privacy laws tend t…

US here. Definitely more permissive than any EU nation. Public space typically means free for all in terms of recording[1]. The incident I link is relevant as we are bound to see a whole new bunch of 'content creators' going for various new ways to engage the public.

https://patch.com/illinois/lakezurich/il-student-punches-pro...

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Post by ccppurcell »

zmmmmm wrote: post #194

I do think it's completely unacceptable if Meta makes the glasses unable to be used for routine functions without (a) other humans reviewing your private content and (b) AI training on your content. There needs to be total transparency to people when this is happening - these are absolutes. But I'm a bit confused by the article because it describes things that seem really unlikely given how the glasses work. They shi…

I mean laptop webcams also shine a light when they're recording but obviously you don't just trust the light to come on right?

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Post by wahnfrieden »

Post titled has been repeatedly edited to make it vague and to remove all content of the concern

Actual title is “She Came Out of the Bathroom Naked, [Meta] Employee Says” and subtitle begins with “Bank details, sex and naked people who seem unaware they are being recorded”

Suspicious moderation behaviors on this one

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