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Re: Mac mini will be made at a new facility in Houston

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Post by dijit »

transcriptase wrote: post #449
ivankabiden wrote: post #437

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There is a credit reporting system, similar to the one in the US. However, most people are not affected by it in their daily lives. Only those who are in serious financial trouble and cannot pay off their debts are placed on a blacklist, which restricts them from traveling by high-speed rail or flights.

Now go find a mirror and read your post out loud to yourself, slowly.

The US also restricts peoples right to travel if they owe too much in taxes or have more than $2,500 in unpaid child support payments.

They can even revoke your passport (which is functionally the same thing as some forms of travel only accept a passport).

So, you're both doing the pointing spiderman meme here.

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Post by shimman »

palmotea wrote: post #580
fragmede wrote: post #515

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You don't have to work 996 to have an attitude of let's help the customer take their product to market. The American machine shop will laugh at you for not being a machinist, and tell you oh we don't do powder coating, we don't make cardboard boxes or styrofoam inserts. So then you, as the customer trying to get a product to market gotta run around town figuring it all out. Meanwhile, you start talking to the Chinese…

So basically you're blaming American workers for an attitude problem, when the real issue is, due to offshoring, the supply chain either doesn't exist here or isn't so centralized/expansive enough that someone has random relatives in related manufacturing businesses they're motivated to send work to? So basically, you're being unfair. And, from personal experience, while it's not exactly the same, when I've worked wi…

These people will never stop to think that they are the problem in society, society has been molded in their neoliberal image where everyone is a savvy consumer and worker. We have 40 years of living in such a society and income inequality is worse than the gilded age, life expectancy is regressing, and children are doing worse in school; people don't even have the time to enjoy themselves and are forced to consume to be part of culture. Why we took all this for granted because a couple of MBA fuckups thought they knew better than the rest of us, I'll never know. Well actually I do know, because they were so greedy they wanted to make slightly more money rather than provide Americans good jobs.

It's disgusting on so many levels.

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Post by NickC25 »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #369
cucumber3732842 wrote: post #333

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Who's we? The college educated white collar professionals who are grossly over-represented in policy discourse? Middle america, the formerly industrial northeast and the former bulk industry west have been complaining about this shit policy for over a generation. Implicitly shuttering our manufacturing and heavy industry by subjecting it to policy that we knew would make it increasingly noncompetitive at the margin a…

What government policies are you referring to? Businesses moved manufacturing to China because their goal is to make as much money as possible. The only potential barrier is if US citizens would care that it wasn't made in America. Products are labeled and most people don't care. This is an American quality where a person who works in a factory that makes extension cords and needs their job to survive would buy the c…

>Most people aren't willing to make financial sacrifices to help people they don't know EVEN if they might be affected by another person having the same belief.

Because in the US that's the case because people give a shit about cost - you could make financial sacrifices to help your community by buying local...but your costs of living are skyrocketing every year, the costs of your family are increasing, and the difference between buying from BigCorp (Walmart, Amazon) and from your local store (which is 1.3-1.7x the price vs BigCorp) adds up.

Sad but it's true.

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Post by midnighthollowc »

tedd4u wrote: post #600
adamgordonbell wrote: post #84

Apple is very tied to Chinese manufacturing in a way that is hard to replicate in US. They will agree to make some high margin simple to assemble thing in the US to appease government, but if it goes as well as last time, they will stop as soon as they can. In china they were often able to iterate on designs and have custom screws and other parts made and ramped up in very short times. Something about having the whol…

'Q:What does China's competitive edge look like in practice?' 'A: One example from The Times article: When Jobs decided just a month before the iPhone hit markets to replace a scratch-prone plastic screen with a glass one, a Foxconn factory in China woke up about 8,000 workers when the glass screens arrived at midnight, and the workers were assembling 10,000 iPhones a day within 96 hours. 'Another example: Apple had…

That's pretty amazing, honestly.

Here I can't even get a tradesperson to give me a quote, much less show up on a dime. I guess I need another eight billion dollars, give or take a penny

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Post by edgyquant »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #214
vsgherzi wrote: post #145

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Of course I do. Competition can only be good here.

You willing to work 996? I would prefer some form of work-life balance.

Most factories in the us simply have multiple shifts and run 24 hours

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Post by edgyquant »

azinman2 wrote: post #349
vsgherzi wrote: post #250

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In spite of no totalitarian government and things like environmental regulations the US still is able to be one of the most innovative nations on the planet. I don't think we need those things to be able to have manufacturing in the united states. We had it at one point and we can do it again. It's not going to be easy and it's going to need some real breakthrough ideas before we can actually compete. Apple here is t…

The US had it when the rest of the world was severely bombed during WWII, and a lot of the world was very undeveloped. Things changed.

The US had it for a hundred years before that and was already by far the largest industrial power on the planet before world war 1

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Post by zanderz »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #230
dangus wrote: post #191

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The conversion rate is actually 0%. Nobody will pay more for a USA version. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43787647

Well, um.. Forgive me for not being in the market for a showerhead in the last few years and / or not knowing about this one company that I didn't see at Home Depot/Lowes when I did buy a couple of them? I admit I'm probably an outlier, but in terms of durable goods, I'd pay 30-50% more for lots of things if they were "made in the USA" or "made in Canada" (any western country) and it meant something - like, better pa…

For anything more complex than a shower head, a made in USA label often implies some trickery with final assembly of imported components, like the crossfire example above. Researching the supply chain for every single purchase is too tedious and exhausting for many of us otherwise willing to vote with our wallets.

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Post by Gravityloss »

adamweld wrote: post #328
pear01 wrote: post #314

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That guy is so annoying his subpar analysis has become such a trope. America used to build things too. Lawyers have been part of the founding and fabric of both societies. Trying to reduce China v America to engineers vs lawyers is so reductive it's just mind blowing this keeps getting repeated.

I've only listened to one interview with Dan Wang, but I understood him to be particularly talking about the politicians, not the country as a whole. I can't speak for China, I've only visited a few times, but in the US it's true that an overwhelming number of successful politicians were previously lawyers. Which is not a good thing IMO.

Bill Allen certainly got a lot of things manufactured at Boeing, despite being a lawyer

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Post by gigatexal »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #41
gigatexal wrote: post #39

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This is to appease pumpkin potus and his merry band of idiots Update: For the record I do hate the POTUS. He’s ruined our reputation around the world. Allowed things like USAID to die removing aid from millions leading to many deaths. He’s incompetent and very stupid which will likely get us killed either in some war or in the next pandemic. Tarrifs are a tax. Congress raises taxes. If you support his right to tax wi…

So what? Even if you hate who the president is, it is in the best interest of everyone that the president does a good job. Wanting the president to fail and millions to suffer is scorched earth hatred, not strategy.

This is the same as saying to a woman in an abusive relationship: “it’s in the best interest of the kids and the family and everyone else that you put on a happy face and make it look like he’s a good husband and father even if he beats you”

Re: Mac mini will be made at a new facility in Houston

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Post by yndoendo »

yndoendo wrote: post #113

While shopping I look where items are produced and by whom company. When I see an item is manufactured in Texas I put it back on the shelf and keep walking. That State is too politically corrupt for me to financially support, same with Florida.

To the one that down voted ... I will continue to not fund the corrupt state of Texas and Florida.

I will continue to not waste my money on states that reject simple humanity ... such as rejecting the requirement for heat and water breaks for outdoor workers ... and erosion of church and state.

[0] https://www.fox13news.com/news/desantis-signs-bill-banning-f...

[1] https://apnews.com/article/paxton-indictment-texas-d5e57fc6c...

[2] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/11/26/texas-laws-effective...

[3] https://www.fox4news.com/news/texas-laws-now-effect-septembe...

P.S. I have family that lives there and they tell everyone not to move there. If they had the means to get out they would. Unfortunately it is not just about economics it can also be about divorced parents with shared custody that prevents this.

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