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Amazon/AWS was trying to push its partnership with Apple hard once that was revealed, including vague references to doing AI things, but AWS is just way to far behind at this point so looks like they lost out here to Google/GCP.
If nothing else, this was likely driven by Google being the most stable of the AI labs. Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product. Also for Apple, they know their provider has ridiculously deep pockets, a good understanding and infrastructure in place for large enterprises, and a fairly diversified revenue stream. Going with An…
> Gemini is objectively a good model (whether it's #1 or #5 in ranking aside) so Apple can confidently deliver a good (enough) product Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door. It was nearly two years ago they sold a phone with features that still haven't shipped and the promise that Apple Intelligence would come in two months.
Will make it much easier to find those missing pictures from a few years ago...
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What are the top 3 features you’re missing right now?
I'll bite 1. Have a user interface. Sometimes I'll ask a question and Siri actually provides a good enough answer, and while I'm reading it, the Siri response window just disappears. Siri is this modal popup with no history, no App, and no UI at all really. Siri doesn't have a user interface, and it should have one so that I can go back to sessions and resume them or reference them later and interact with Siri in mor…
Also, Liam Neeson just catching strays over here
"Google already pays Apple billions each year to be the default search engine on iPhones. But that lucrative partnership briefly came into question after Google was found to hold an illegal internet search monopoly. In September, a judge ruled against a worst-case scenario outcome that could have forced Google to divest its Chrome browser business. The decision also allowed Google to continue to make deals such as th…
Google pays 20 billion to Apple annually for search traffic
Apple allegedly pays Google about 1 billion per year for Gemini
Perhaps Gemini sends more search traffic to Google
The search traffic and data collection is worth far more than Gemini
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Apple thinks they can get a best-of-both-worlds approach with Private Cloud Compute. They believe they can secure private servers specialized to specific client devices in a way that the cloud compute effort is still "client-side" from a trust standpoint, but still able to use extra server-side resources (under lock and key). I don't know how close to that ideal they've achieved, but especially given this announcemen…
You're excited together with a handful of other privacy enthusiasts on HackerNews. I would think for the vast majority of users out there this is not a concern at all. Apple until now failed to even get the basics done and make Siri smart, despite marketing "Apple Intelligence" as the core feature of 2024's iPhone.
I'm excited about the attempt at privacy because I'm on "Team Keep Siri Dumb". I like dumb Siri. It reliably meets most of my needs, setting timers and managing house lights. I'd rather Siri stay dumb and I would never opt-in to ChatGPT Siri as some of my family has, but if Siri "has to" get smart to survive, I will celebrate whatever privacy wins are still available as my only hope that smarter Siri is not something I need to just disable entirely (and lose my "friend" in charge of my timers and house lights in the process).
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> but when they adopt them eventually, they become mainstream and cool When was this part last true?
Tablets; Soldering SSD's and ram to the motherboard. Microsoft had tablets for a decade before the iPad came out. You rarely ever saw them in the wild. In fact, you still rarely see a Surface tablet. At least, I don't.
Many years later, I was working for a startup called kWhOURS in a little old house in East Cambridge, Massachusetts. Our target users were engineers used to paying thousands for the rugged and expensive Windows laptops we needed to deploy our Adobe AIR tablet app onto since they had a touchscreen. Still a clunky UI, but our software was usable. Then the iPad was released, and it was literally worlds apart, something people have long taken for granted. All of us, including Adobe, were taken by surprise, because all attempts at tablets prior to that were so far inferior to Apple's version, and competitors spent many years trying to catch up.
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It's funny, I was mad at them for getting rid of magsafe for years, and super excited when they brought it back with the AS macs. Used the cable for a year or two and then decided to simplify my life but just using USB C for everything. I hope they can forgive me for doubting their benevolent wisdom, I promise never to do it again.
Same… I love MagSafe and would prefer to use it. I’m always worried about yanking the computer with the USB-C charger in and breaking the cable or the port. But I have a bunch of USB-C stuff and so when I go to charge my laptop it’s just easier to find that cable and use it.
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> Definitely. At at this point, Apple just needs to get anything out the door They don't though, Android is clearly ahead in AI integration (even Samsung are running TV ads mocking iPhones AI capability) yet still iPhones sales are breaking records - the majority of their phone buyers still prefer an iPhone over an AI capable other phone. They can take their time to develop AI integration that others can't deploy - '…
I don’t need a Siri LLM. The current Siri is more than adequate for responding to texts and calling while driving. A lot of the “ai integrations” is marketing material for features nobody will actually use
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Them having bolted on ChatGPT in the ugly way they did is evidence though. Their naff image generation tool (Playground) is further evidence. Apple are definitely panicking. And they should be too.
> Them having bolted on ChatGPT in the ugly way they did is evidence though That's evidence they forced themselves. Not that there was a forcing function. That's the whole point of the top comment. (Mine.) They rushed where they didn't have to. And I still don't think they need to rush.
These services are threatened by the emerging competitive landscape. Apple is panicking, and there is a forcing function, because their users are spending more and more time with LLMs having the most personal experiences they’ve ever had with any software, and Apple isn’t getting a piece of that pie. They’re in a very high risk position because this is the heart of their brand and as data is slowly siphoned away into apps and services that are providing the experiences their users are growing to expect, that moat and stickiness is eroding.
That said, this precisely why it’s taken so long. While Apple is desperate, they are completely unwilling to disrespect their users trust and mishandle their personal data or compromise their privacy.