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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by safety1st »

rendaw wrote: post #589
safety1st wrote: post #564

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I think he's aimed in the right direction with the observation about short videos. I tried to load his website. It took a full minute to come up. Maybe that's the HN hug of death or something, but this is surely issue #1 to resolve. Beyond that I would ask whether targeting the "young'uns" directly is the correct strategy. His business is party entertainment, kids' birthday parties could be the biggest slice of that,…

It loaded in far less than a second for me, almost immediate.

Hmm, the URL appears to have changed since I commented. It was originally a .co.za. Now it's fast.

Perhaps there was a CDN issue (I am in a country that is definitely not material to his business)

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Post by tomjuggler »

safety1st wrote: post #564
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #43

I think the author intended the title to be, "Google Ads is dead, Where do I promote my business now?" When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief). They mention running ads on tiktok or instagram but no mention of youtube ads... Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful. So my next steps would be, Reddit Ads Youtube Ads Instagram Ads Increase…

I think he's aimed in the right direction with the observation about short videos. I tried to load his website. It took a full minute to come up. Maybe that's the HN hug of death or something, but this is surely issue #1 to resolve. Beyond that I would ask whether targeting the "young'uns" directly is the correct strategy. His business is party entertainment, kids' birthday parties could be the biggest slice of that,…

My entertainment website typically gets 10-100 visitors per day, yesterday it was more like 1000 per hour. The only reason it's still online is because of CloudFlare CDN!

My content is best live and in person but you are right, will be concentrating more on video content for yt and others going forward

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Post by tomjuggler »

safety1st wrote: post #601
rendaw wrote: post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It loaded in far less than a second for me, almost immediate.

Hmm, the URL appears to have changed since I commented. It was originally a .co.za. Now it's fast. Perhaps there was a CDN issue (I am in a country that is definitely not material to his business)

I updated CloudFlare settings, yes. Seems to have worked?

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Post by PantaloonFlames »

underlipton wrote: post #331
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

>Look where everyone is looking and you'll find your answer there. It may not be in the same form as Google adwords, but the game is the same. Leveraging attention. The chill that ran down my spine when I realized that you and TFA think that the part people care about is Google as an ad platform , and not as a way to access websites. Jesus fucking Christ, things are bleak.

Do you know how Google makes money?

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Post by enos_feedler »

cookiengineer wrote: post #278
nostrademons wrote: post #160

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In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

I had a very interesting discussion with a friend today, where I was talking to her about the /r/golang thread about Rob Pike's comments to OpenAI and how the thread was full of bots talking with other bots. No idea why the density of bots was so high in that thread, it was kind of absurd to see. Then she said: "I know nobody that comments on online forums. Nobody would ever comment to strangers on the internet. It's…

I think the idea that nobody would talk to strangers online is a bit too general. We are all mostly doing it here. I do it on reddit all the time in the same recurring subreddits that I've grown to trust. IRC was also pretty hostile back in the 90s. But again it depended on the communities. Just think you can't generalize the internet this way.

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Post by TurnItOffAndOn0 »

conductr wrote: post #565

> Right now, though – I’m broke. Anyone need a website or IOT project built? I am AI assisted, very fast! Oh wow, this author is tone deaf to the entire situation that is occurring in the world right now. I just had a conversation with my 70 year old Aunt (no tech skills) about AI and its impact on the labor market and I used the example of how for the first time ever I actually believe she could build her own iPhone…

that's true.Lots of people try to build app to solve their problem. ai make it easier. But I'm not sure if people want to make apps just like make a short

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Post by kiba »

nostrademons wrote: post #160
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

I regularly do improv every week, which is essentially improvised live theater. So some time is spent not watching youtube or some sort of electronic intermediaries.

Which is actually pretty odd, because improvisational comedy as we know it today is younger than the film industry.

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Post by tensor »

piskov wrote: post #247
wahern wrote: post #196

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A little over 15 years ago you could index the web with a small cluster. I remember people doing doing it with Cassandra or Elasticsearch. I'm sure you'd need a much bigger cluster, but outside video and images I imagine it's still doable even for a small organization, especially if you're filtering out content farms. Plus, there are many organizations interested in having access to an index, and I'm pretty more than…

Index is one thing, great search over it is another. A competitive, general-purpose web search engine with its own full index is _brutally_ hard and expensive. This is the reason there are only a few world-class like russian yandex, chinese baidu (to not state the obvious names like google).

They already have world class search technology. In terms of indexing they only need to index the most important content. There is so much slop now and it doesn't matter at all if that is indexed. IMO their strategy of focusing on smaller sites with human curated content is correct. They can make some deals to index some of the big walled gardens and that's pretty much world class right now.

What do you think a site like Google is giving you these days? They are explicitly bad at indexing the small web. Their search technology is not better than Kagi, and made worse by ads and LLM ad bias. So what is this big "world class" thing they do that can't be replicated?

The web is not the same place it was years ago. Indexing all the slop and scams and ads is not useful to me as a consumer.

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Post by cookiengineer »

shermantanktop wrote: post #535
cookiengineer wrote: post #512

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> And yet, here you are, posting ... Correction, I am posting while pooping. I don't care much about social media these days and I draw the line at the toilet door.

Given the word count of your original post, I can tell you that daily psyllium husk is a miracle.

Actually, thanks for the reminder.
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