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It's actually more expensive than GPT-5.1. I've gotten used to prices going down with each latest model, but this time it's gone up. https://platform.openai.com/docs/pricing

Getting more expensive has been the trend for the closed weights frontier models. See Gemini 3 Pro vs 2.5 Pro. Also see Gemini 2.5 Flash vs 2.0 Flash. The only thing that got cheaper recently was Opus 4.5 vs Opus 4.

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That's hilarious and right on brand for Google that they spend millions developing cutting-edge technology and fumble the ball making a chat app.

Every Google app is a chat app, except maybe search.

Is Google Drive a chat app? Is Google Photos a drive app? I don’t know what you mean

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I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

No desktop app, not using it

HN doesn't have a dedicated desktop app either.

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I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

Then you haven't used Gemini CLI with Gemini 3 hard enough. It's a genius psychopath. The raw IQ that Gemini has is incredible. Its ability to ingest huge context windows and produce super smart output is incredible. But the bias towards action, absolutely ignoring user guidance, tendency to produce garbage output that looks like 1990s modem line noise, and its propensity to outright ignore instructions make it unusa…

I guess when you use it for generic "problem solving", brainstorming for solutions, this is great. That's what I use it for, and Gemini is my favorite model. I love when Gemini resists and suggests that I am wrong while explaining why. Either it's true, and I'm happy for that, or I can re-prompt based on the new information which doesn't allow for the mistake Gemini made.

On the other hand, I can also see why Claude is great for coding, for example. By default it is much more "structured". One can probably change these default personalities with some prompting, and many of the complaints found in this thread about either side are based on the assumption that you can use the same prompt for all models.

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I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

It would be useful to see some examples of the differences and supposed strengths of Gemini so this doesn't come off as Google advertisement snarf.

Also, I would never, ever, trust Google for privacy or sign into a Google account except on YouTube (and clear cookies afterwards to stop them from signing me into fucking Search too).

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40% increase is not "slight."

Not the OP, but I think "slight" here is in relation to Anthropic and Google. Claude Opus 4.5 comes at $25/MT (million tokens), Sonnet 4.5 at $22.5/MT, and Gemini 3 at $18/MT. GPT 5.2 at $14/MT is still the cheapest.

Your numbers are very off.

  $25 - Opus 4.5
  $15 - Sonnet 4.5
  $14 - GPT 5.2
  $12 - Gemini 3 Pro
Even if you're including input, your numbers are still off.

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> Only downsides are in the polish department What an understatement. It has me thinking „man, fuck this“ on the daily. Just today it spontaneously lost an entire 20-30 minutes long thread and it was far from the first time. It basically does it any time you interrupt it in any way. It’s straight up data loss. It’s kind of a typical Google product in that it feels more like a tech demo than a product. It has theoreti…

There is no competing product for GPT Voice. Hands down. I have tried Claude, Gemini - they don't even comes close. But voice is not a huge traffic funnel. Text is. And the verdict is more or less unanimous at this time. Gemini 3.0 has outdone ChatGPT. I unsubscribed from GPT plus today. I was a happy camper until the last month when I started noticing deplorable bugs. 1. The conversation contexts are getting intertw…

What's that near free subscription? I don't see it here

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Google’s standard problem is that they don’t even use their own products. Their Pixel and Android team rocks iPhones on the daily, for example.

That’s because they will be bullied out of the dating market if they have a “green bubble”.

What is a green bubble? iPhone's carbon footprint?

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Context window size of 400k is not new, gpt-5, 5.1, 5-mini, etc. have the same. But they do claim they improved long context performance which if true would be great.

But 400k was never usable in ChatGPT Plus/Pro subscriptions. It was nerfed down to 60-100k. If you submitted too long of a prompt they deleted the tokens on the end of your prompt before calling the model. Or if the chat got too long (still below 100k however) they deleted your first messages. This was 3 months ago. Can someone with an active sub check whether we can submit a full 400k prompt (or at least 200k) and t…

> Or if the chat got too long (still below 100k however) they deleted your first messages. This was 3 months ago.

I can believe that, but it also seems really silly? If your max context window is X and the chat has approached that, instead of outright deleting the first messages outright, why not have your model summarise the first quarter of tokens and place those at the beginning of the log you feed as context? Since the chat history is (mostly) immutable, this only adds a minimal overhead: you can cache the summarisation, and don't have to do that over and over again for each new message. (If partially summarised log gets too long, you summarise again.)

Since I can come up with this technique in half a minute of thinking about the problem, and the OpenAI folks are presumably not stupid, I wonder what downside I'm missing.

Re: GPT-5.2

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For the first time, I’m presenting a problem to LLMs that they cannot seem to answer. This is my first instance of them “endlessly thinking” without producing anything.

The problem is complicated, but very solvable.

I’m programming video cropping into my Android application. It seems videos that have “rotated” metadata cause the crop to be applied incorrectly. As in, a crop applied to the top of a video actually gets applied to the video rotated on its side.

So, either double rotation is being applied somewhere in the pipeline, or rotation metadata is being ignored.

I tried Opus 4.5, Gemini 3, and Codex 5.2. All 3 go through loops of “Maybe Media3 applies the degree(90) after…”, “no, that’s not right. Let me think…”

They’ll do this for about 5 minutes without producing anything. I’ll then stop them, adjusting the prompt to tell them “Just try anything! Your first thought, let’s rapidly iterate!“. Nope. Nothing.

To add, it also only seems to be using about 25% context on Opus 4.5. Weird!

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