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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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I'm sold enough on this form factor to take a flyer on a pre-order. I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. The lack of battery charging/replacement is a bummer, but slimness is far more critical for a ring than just about any other device so I understand the tradeoff. I've also seen stories…

> I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. Since you’re the target audience, I’ll ask you: How do you envision you’ll work through all of the captured notes? Do it all at the end of the day? Go back and look for something after you remember making the note? I’m wondering if this product will…

> How do you envision you’ll work through all of the captured notes? Do it all at the end of the day?

Not entirely sure yet. My current setup involves an Apple shortcut that sends a text blob to my email inbox with the subject "Note to self", where I have a filter set up to send emails with that subject line to a specific folder.

Once the notes are in my inbox, I go through them whenever I get around to clearing my other emails, and I parse each item into my action planner. For that, I'm currently using Mark Forster's "Resistance Zero"[0] system to moderate success, but I've been experimenting with other ways of tracking and actioning my to-dos.

Given the software is open source, I plan to try and hack something together that automatically routes my voice notes as plaintext to that same email filter.

I try to adopt the Unix philosophy when assembling my personal productivity workflow. To that end, I consider this device a composable "quick capture" tool, and nothing more.

> Recording the thought or idea is the easy part, but it only defers the action.

I find that this is very untrue for me.

The tiny bits of friction with other quick-capture systems I've tried add up to a substantial "loss factor" over time. If I use pen/paper, I need to ensure I have my notepad and pen on me at all times. If I use my phone, I also need to have it on me at all times, and then also manage to avoid getting distracted by social media. Either action requires fumbling around with a physical object which is not always convenient or possible.

If this device results in me capturing so many thoughts that I get bogged down and struggle to process them effectively, I would actually consider that a massive success, at least as concerns the specific use-case I aim to address. Any "failure" there is merely an indication that I need to give the "input processing" part of my system some TLC.

> For all of the commenters thinking this is going to solve their distractability problems, I have my doubts.

Fully agree. I have no illusions about this solving anything more than improving the reliability with which I capture thoughts and get them into my system. But anyone who expects this to solve more will likely be disappointed.

Edit: Forgot link.

[0] http://markforster.squarespace.com/blog/2022/6/14/resistance...

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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We regularly get contacted by people in Europe who want to buy our product, but we haven't been providing support due to the cost of certs, and other regulatory needs (medical/wellness device). We want to help people in the EU, but with laws like replaceable batteries, it's going to push us further and further away from being able to do that. Our product is designed to be refurbished, but not user-replaceable. At the…

My personal experience: Electric toothbrush and razor. I especially hate the razors, you can replace the head, they could last a lifetime, but the battery is practically dead after two years. Toothbrushes are improving, the last one has 3 years of service and still work ok.

I'm using an Oral-B electric toothbrush from 2009. The (non-replaceable) battery needs to be charged about every 3-5 days now, which is not a problem because it sits in its charging stand every night.

My wife bought some cheap electric toothbrush that runs on AA batteries, which can be rechargeable and have a lifespan independent of the gadget.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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sure but the Oura does a bunch of unrelated stuff specific to health and also has to be charged twice a week? they're not even comparable products

I don’t understand what you don’t understand. The oura comparison is one they made and used “charging every day” as a reason to not use a rechargeable battery. If they took the oura hardware model and applied it to their voice recorder ring, you would be charging monthly if not longer. TL;dr - There’s no reason to not have a rechargeable battery other than to create e-waste and “a revenue stream”.

That's total nonsense, you have to make it larger to include a charging mechanism (which would need to be proprietary to fit) and it's more difficult to manufacture in a water-tight way. They're spending significantly less on developing and building this than Oura has. Keep in mind Oura has raised over a billion dollars in funding.

The e-waste here is negligible. If you've ever tossed a laptop or phone you've effectively produced more e-waste than a lifetime of these little things. A single disposable AA battery is more waste by weight.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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how large are the STT and LLM models that you use on-device? are they part of the OS or downloaded with the app?

There are several different options you can pick from between 50MB and 600MB.

thanks! are any of them multi-lingual? what languages may be supported?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Battery decision asid, I love this dude's obsession with making unique hardware

What's unique about this ring that has less features than other "smart" rings?

I don’t know any other smart rings that do what this one does. So not sure what you mean by “less features”

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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I actually tried this workflow with some ebay'ed microcassette recorders - even the really compact ones are bulkier (though not necessarily heavier) than a modern cellphone, plus being non-connected you basically have to set aside some time to transcribe and erase (doable, but if you're specifically using it as a memory assist then having to remember this isn't great.) They did do a good job of "one press and they're…

A modern digital voice recorder would have been a better choice for the experiment perhaps? Pen form factor versions exist, e.g. Olympus VP-20, Philips Voicetracer DVT1600.

Of the few of those that have "one button recording" at all, they generally still have slide-and-hold or otherwise complicated mechanisms to power on the device before the one-button part works, or they have a slide-and-hold record switch that doesn't give good feedback that they're actually recording. (The VP-20 is like that.) Hmm, the voicetracer looks plausible, you just have to push the switch one way. (Most of the pen-form ones have the secondary flaw that they're trying to be stealthy, which is illegal in ⅔ of US states.)

The one consumer recorder that I've found that's really "grab it, press one button, start talking, and know you're recording" is the teenage engineering TP-7 - which is an amazing bit of engineering, but for $1500 it had better be.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Regulation (EU) 2023/1542 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 12 July 2023 concerning batteries and waste batteries Article 11 Removability and replaceability of portable batteries and LMT batteries 1. Any natural or legal person that places on the market products incorporating portable batteries shall ensure that those batteries are readily removable and replaceable by the end-user at any time during th…

For something like a smart ring, a user-replacable battery is just totally impractical. Particularly if you want any sort of water resistance. The thing is just too damn small and will require special tools no matter what. I don't think it's at all reasonable to expect such a product to have a user-replacable battery without doubling the cost. Sure it'd be nice, but the reality is sometimes it just isn't possible to…

The regulation is not some bureaucratic nonsense, it exists for a reason.

If its existence means the manufacturer has to do more work, and the cost might rise, that is considered worth it.

They can lobby to have the regulation changed, and regulations have changed in the past based on industry input, but saying "it's too hard" does not make the product suddenly legal.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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I'm sold enough on this form factor to take a flyer on a pre-order. I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. The lack of battery charging/replacement is a bummer, but slimness is far more critical for a ring than just about any other device so I understand the tradeoff. I've also seen stories…

Yeah I pre-ordered but for what it's worth I've already been doing this with my pebble for close to a decade but the ring lets me trigger it via a single hand

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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post #123

I'm sold enough on this form factor to take a flyer on a pre-order. I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. The lack of battery charging/replacement is a bummer, but slimness is far more critical for a ring than just about any other device so I understand the tradeoff. I've also seen stories…

> I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. Since you’re the target audience, I’ll ask you: How do you envision you’ll work through all of the captured notes? Do it all at the end of the day? Go back and look for something after you remember making the note? I’m wondering if this product will…

Right now I've got it set where I hold down a button on my pebble and it post it to my Trello but with Advent to LLMS I'm planning on linking it to have that do some of the review process
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