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Re: Nano Banana Pro

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We are talking here about the most basic things- nothing AI related. Basic billing. The fact that it is not working says a lot about the future of the product and company culture in general (obviously they are not product-oriented)

There’s nothing basic about billing.

It is basic in the sense that it is difficult to run a business where billing doesn’t work. It’s not basic in the „easy“ sense.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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At least until someone decides to fine-tune a general purpose model to the task of animation.

Yeah reading this I was thinking, we've got Qwen-Image-Edit which is an image model with an LLM backbone that takes well to finetuning. I'd be surprised if you can't get a 80%/20% result in a weekend, and even that probably saves you some time if you're just willing to pick best-of-n results

The person behind www.pixellab.ai has been trying to make a SaaS out of that idea for about 2 years already and it just isn't there, the examples in the homepage are extremely cherry-picked, I bet most of their paying customers just use it as a starting point and then spend hours manually fix the sprites, which may be more than enough value for $12 a month and that's great but what is shows is that we are not as close as one would like to imagine, the "one leg in front of the other at about the same depth and the same color" is still problematic to this day; if most pants in the world had a different color for each leg I bet most of its animation issues would be solved, unfortunately we don't and most of the training data involves single-color pants/legs.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…

First off, apologies for the bad first impression, the team is pushing super hard to make sure it is easy to access these models. - On permission issue, not sure I follow the flow that got you there, pls email me more details if you are able too and happy to debug: Lkilpatrick@google.com - On overall friction for billing: we are working on a new billing experience built right into AI Studio that will make it super ea…

Dude. Let me give you my money. This isn’t rocket science. I don’t want anything to do with Google Cloud or Google Workspace or w/e it’s called now. Let me just subscribe to Gemini or Nano straight up.

This should be like 2 clicks.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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It didn’t do so well at finding middle C on a piano keyboard: https://gemini.google.com/share/c9af8de05628 I did manage to get one image of a piano keyboard where the black keys were correct, but not consistently.

I've tried similar stuff such as: "Show a piano with an outstretched hand playing a Emaj triad on the E, G#, and B keys". https://imgur.com/ogPnHcO Even generating a standard piano with 7 full octaves that are consistent is pretty hard. If you ask it to invert the colors of the naturals and sharps/flats you'll completely break them.

reflection seems slightly wrong as well

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#606

Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…

As a small advertiser, it can be surprisingly hard to give them money sometimes. (Trying to advertise an Airbnb.)

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#607

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Yeah reading this I was thinking, we've got Qwen-Image-Edit which is an image model with an LLM backbone that takes well to finetuning. I'd be surprised if you can't get a 80%/20% result in a weekend, and even that probably saves you some time if you're just willing to pick best-of-n results

The person behind www.pixellab.ai has been trying to make a SaaS out of that idea for about 2 years already and it just isn't there, the examples in the homepage are extremely cherry-picked, I bet most of their paying customers just use it as a starting point and then spend hours manually fix the sprites, which may be more than enough value for $12 a month and that's great but what is shows is that we are not as clos…

At the risk of sounding unfairly stubborn about something I'm not that familiar with, if they've been at it for 2 years I'm imagining a very different (much more difficult) pipeline than fine-tuning an image model with an LLM backbone

The jump in understanding that having a full sized LLM behind the generations enables here is massive: https://ghost.oxen.ai/fine-tuned-qwen-image-edit-vs-nano-ban...

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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No, I don't think they are. If you are facing a wall-plate with two power sockets on it side by side and you are telling someone to plug something in, which one would be "the right socket", and which would be "the left socket"? If above the wall-plate is a photo of a person and you are someone to draw a tattoo on the photo, which is "the right arm" and which is "the left arm"? Same wording, different expectation.

Power plugs are not people. ETA: and if I were telling someone which socket to plug something into, it would absolutely be from the prospective of the person doing the plugging, not from inside the wall.

> Power plugs are not people.

Agreed. So the "obvious" meaning of left and right differ depend on context, which is what pphysch was pointing out.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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I had to look up what a "skifter" is. An AI answer showed that it's Norwegian for a switch. I'm curious, does the word have a further meaning in the context of cheating at cards?

It's an admittedly obscure reference to a cheating technique used in the Star Wars card game sabacc, which allows a player to surreptitiously switch out a card. I’m pretty sure I picked it up from one of Timothy Zahn's Thrawn books when I was a kid. But I didn't know it had a meaning in Norwegian, so I guess TIL!

Hah. I loved those Timothy Zahn books. Don't remember that one, though!

Re: Nano Banana Pro

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Alright results are in! I've re-run all my editing based adherence related prompts through Nano Banana Pro. NB Pro managed to successfully pass SHRDLU, the M&M Van Halen test (as verified independently by Simon), and the Scorpio street test - all of which the original NB failed. Model results 1. Nano Banana Pro: 10 / 12 2. Seedream4: 9 / 12 3. Nano Banana: 7 / 12 4. Qwen Image Edit: 6 / 12 https://genai-showdown.spec…

"Remove all the trash from the street and sidewalk. Replace the sleeping person on the ground with a green street bench. Change the parking meter into a planted tree." Three sentences that do a great job summing up modern big tech. The new model even manages to [digitally] remove all trash.

The better to sell you real estate...
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