Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

Post by Maxion » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 6:01 AM UTC

efitz wrote: post #537

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As a sysadmin at company that provide fairly sensitive services, I find online cloud backups to be way to slow for the purpose of protecting against something like the server room being destroyed by a fire. Even something like spinning disks at a remote location feel like a risk, as files would need to be copied onto faster disks before services could be restored, and that copying would take precious time during an e…

For truly colossal amounts of data, fedex has more bandwidth than fiber. I don’t know if any cloud providers will send you your stuff on physical storage, but most will allow you to send your stuff to them on physical storage- eg AWS snowball. There are two main reasons why people struggle with cloud restore: 1. Not enough incoming bandwidth. The cloud’s pipe is almost certainly big enough to send your data to you. Y…

Post by Jean-Papoulos » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 6:07 AM UTC

Post by zaptheimpaler » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 6:08 AM UTC

carrychains wrote: post #94

MangoCoffee wrote: post #76

It's hard to believe this happened. South Korea has tech giants like Samsung, and yet this is how the government runs? Is the US government any better?

The first thing that comes to mind when I think of the South Korean government is the storied tradition of physical confrontation in their parliament along with more than a few viral videos of brawls and such over the years. It used to be better in the US, but with the intensity of discord in our government lately, I don't think anyone really knows anymore.

Post by shakna » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 6:11 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #226

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Microsoft has already testified that the American government maintains access to their data centres, in all regions. It likely applies to all American cloud companies. America is not a stable ally, and has a history of spying on friends. So unless the whole of your backup is encrypted offline, and you trust the NSA to never break the encryption you chose, its a national security risk.

> America is not a stable ally, and has a history of spying on friends America is a shitty ally for many reasons. But spying on allies isn’t one of them. Allies spy on allies to verify they’re still allies. This has been done throughout history and is basic competency in statecraft.

Post by shakna » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 6:13 AM UTC

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That doesn’t capture the full truth. Since Snowden, we have hard evidence the NSA has been snooping on foreign governments and citizens alike with the purpose of harvesting data and gathering intelligence, not just to verify their loyalty. No nation should trust the USA, especially not with their state secrets, if they can help it. Not that other countries are inherently more trustworthy, but the US is a known bad ac…

> Since Snowden, we have hard evidence the NSA has been snooping on foreign governments and citizens alike We also know this is also true for Russia, China and India. Being spied on is part of the cost of relying on external security guarantees. > Not that other countries are inherently more trustworthy, but the US is a known bad actor All regional and global powers are known bad actors. That said, Seoul is already i…