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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by jMyles »

detaro wrote: post #582
jMyles wrote: post #463

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> I find it interesting how the winds have changed on this topic. My very very strong gut feeling is that this is an influx of bots muddying the waters of discussion in concert with the unleashing of the secret police force that is ICE. It seems to me that every real person sees the crucial importance of public photography in peacefully maintaining accountability.

And of course nobody in this discussion has said anything against photographing officials and news-worthy events. "You should not publish photos/videos of private individuals without consent or a very good reason" and "you should be able to freely document police activity" do not contradict each other.

...and how does that work when we complete the abolitionist struggle and no longer have a separate segment of society assigned to "police activity"?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by dylan604 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #576
sdoering wrote: post #545

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If you only had made the argument you thought you made, but didn’t. And then not even made the effort to understand that the point your discussion partner made was actually in stark contrast to your point in the result they were arguing for. You ended with: > Asking for no photos is like participating in a big sports event as an athlete and demanding nobody takes photos. A private, invite only, wedding isn’t comparab…

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Again, you seem to think that public/private need to be used at the same time. You can have a private event that is publicized so everyone knows it happens yet only those invited can attend. A royal wedding would be an example to keep it in the same realm as the topic. The entire planet knew when William at Kate were getting married, when it was, and where it was. If you tried to get into that event without an invite, you were turned away. If you continued to argue like you are in this thread, you'd probably be detained.

Why you think that a wedding needs a public announcement because of regulations is relevant or not is something I cannot see the point of making. It does not mean the event is open to the public. You seem to think that more words are needed in English to get the concept across, yet you seem to be the only one with the inability to grasp the concept.

I'm deliberately ignoring your diatribe on hosting events as it is totally unnecessary and brings nothing to the conversation.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by jMyles »

Ekaros wrote: post #578
jMyles wrote: post #463

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I find it interesting how the winds have changed on this topic. My very very strong gut feeling is that this is an influx of bots muddying the waters of discussion in concert with the unleashing of the secret police force that is ICE. It seems to me that every real person sees the crucial importance of public photography in peacefully maintaining accountability.

Maybe our society has failed if publishing such photos is needed to maintain accountability... I really do not see that step for actually functioning society.

...we have evolved eyes, brains capable of retaining visual memory of what they capture, and communications media capable of describing and depicting those captured photons.

If you believe in the basic right of general purpose computing - not just a political right, but the idea that general purpose computing is the lifeblood of the internet age - then it seems to follow logically that the capture of photons and depiction thereof are part of the functioning the commons.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by RobRivera »

Then don't make them and be happy.

Perhaps it is a generational gap, but the idea that I have to justify NOT attempting to squeeze a hustle out of absolutely everything I do reduces my trust in any content generated in [current year] as nothing more but a carefully crafted advertising space.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by timeinput »

carlosjobim wrote: post #311
bluecheese452 wrote: post #299

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This is one of the weirdest takes I have ever heard.

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Okay? Most of my friends don't take videos and post them on the internet when I invite them around for games, or a nice dinner, or a birthday. If they started to I would ask them not to come, or invite them on the condition they don't do that. If they don't come because they have to do that constantly, and I don't want to participate I'm not sure what I'm losing.

Lets replace take videos with something maybe more obviously offensive to most people:

Most of my friends don't insult my mother / wife / husband / partner when I invite them around for games, or a nice dinner, or a birthday. If they started to I would ask them not to come, or invite them on the condition they don't do that. If they don't come because they have to do that constantly, and I don't want to participate I'm not sure what I'm losing.

I personally find not respecting my privacy preference in my home pretty darn insulting.

Also people have been having friends over for dinner 100x longer (probably much longer, but I'm just going with how long things have been written down) than video recording has existed, so I'm unsure what traditions you're trying to uphold.

Also I have guests over for dinner because I enjoy their company, not tradition.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by soiltype »

scotty79 wrote: post #514
mothballed wrote: post #64

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Every airsoft event I've been to has been on private property. Solution here is to use a private airsoft field then make no filming a condition of entry. If they violate the rule, trespass.

That's the solution. You don't want to be recorded? Attend "no-recording" event. If there are no such events, tough luck. Market is not obligated to serve your particular needs. If you thing enough people care, organize it yourself.

This comment doesn't engage with the topic at all - you've just used "the free market" as a pass to avoid any meaningful discussion of privacy, consent, and social contracts in the digital age. If your "solution" is literally "tough luck" (we both know "no-recording" airsoft events are extremely unlikely to exist) - what has this added to the conversation?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by detaro »

jMyles wrote: post #601
detaro wrote: post #582

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And of course nobody in this discussion has said anything against photographing officials and news-worthy events. "You should not publish photos/videos of private individuals without consent or a very good reason" and "you should be able to freely document police activity" do not contradict each other.

...and how does that work when we complete the abolitionist struggle and no longer have a separate segment of society assigned to "police activity"?

Then we don't need to worry about documenting ICE activities anymore and still don't need to publish photos of random people without a good reason.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by [deleted] »

scotty79 wrote: post #514
mothballed wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every airsoft event I've been to has been on private property. Solution here is to use a private airsoft field then make no filming a condition of entry. If they violate the rule, trespass.

That's the solution. You don't want to be recorded? Attend "no-recording" event. If there are no such events, tough luck. Market is not obligated to serve your particular needs. If you thing enough people care, organize it yourself.

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by basisword »

patmcc wrote: post #588
basisword wrote: post #531

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>> Asking guests to not take photos is such a faux pass that the couple has destroyed their reputation completely. The day is not about you. Just like people are free to exclude children from weddings, if they ask you not to take photos and you take umbrage at that, you need to take a hard look at yourself. It's. Not. About. You.

I think this is a strange and very modern conception of weddings. Weddings are not just about the bride and groom; they're about the bride and groom and the community of their friends and family. That third part is a key component! It's why we invite people to weddings, so they can witness and help the couple in making and keeping the commitment of marriage.

True, of course, but they're the ones spending a fortune on it. Not only so they can have a memorable day but so their guests enjoy it too. Seems fair that if they ask you to do something really really easy like not take photos, you do that.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by pessimizer »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #553
RajT88 wrote: post #160

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Agree. I went to a family gathering recently, and my wife's cousin was walking around live streaming. People were pissed once they figured out that private conversations were uploading live to the internet. The same guy did similar when his mom was on her death bed. Jesus Christ.

>The same guy did similar when his mom was on her death bed. Jesus Christ. I am so sorry for your loss and I am out of words. Just, I just want to be with ya in silence for a while. I am sorry that you had to go through this. I am really speechless

Are you expressing overdramatic sympathy for the loss of a stranger's wife's cousin's mother? No wonder that cousin films and streams everything.
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