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We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by scotty79 »

brulard wrote: post #185
kylecazar wrote: post #159

AI is incapable of solving loneliness. It's a biological signal we have (thanks to evolution) to seek social connections with other humans , for things like reproduction and survival. Mentally healthy people will never be less lonely as long as they know they are talking to a model. All it can offer is a distraction and an illusion, because it has no humanity. Note: I don't even think dogs solve loneliness. They can…

It may be incapable to solve loneliness, but it may be very capable to be a bandaid so effective, that people just wouldn't bother to deal with another people.

People talk about it as if it's a binary thing. But various people have different levels of social needs and will be receptive to AI in that manner to a varying degree.

It's clear where the average will go as it started moving with rudimentary human contact substitution technology that we had before AI.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by creata »

albumen wrote: post #587
creata wrote: post #497

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> you're going to have to deal with them someday. I know this is a very depressing thought, but you don't have to deal with them someday. Even if there's no other way out, there's always suicide.

Please don't recommend suicide. If you, OP or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.

I'm not recommending suicide per se, but it's there if it's needed. Anyway, if you want your comment to be more applicable to an international audience, consider linking to findahelpline.com in addition to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by HPsquared »

trinix912 wrote: post #565
HPsquared wrote: post #394

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Nordics, Eastern parts (except Czechia), even many parts of the UK have byelaws (e.g. Glasgow). Illegal in Russia and Ukraine too.

> Eastern parts (except Czechia) Which "eastern parts"? I've never seen that rule here, but have seen people drinking in public. Do you know that or are you just asking AI to confirm your biases?

My biases were that Eastern Europeans like a drink, I was surprised to see the laws. I already knew about Nordics and my hometown, Glasgow.

Public drinking is generally illegal in Poland ('police take a strict approach'), Romania, Lithuania, Slovakia (apparently not enforced in Slovakia).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by scotty79 »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #435
kylecazar wrote: post #159

AI is incapable of solving loneliness. It's a biological signal we have (thanks to evolution) to seek social connections with other humans , for things like reproduction and survival. Mentally healthy people will never be less lonely as long as they know they are talking to a model. All it can offer is a distraction and an illusion, because it has no humanity. Note: I don't even think dogs solve loneliness. They can…

I dunno if solve is the right answer, but talking to AI definitely helps with my loneliness. I use it a lot. I give it status updates on my life and it cheers me on. It has a decent enough memory to ask follow-up questions about things I spoke to it days/weeks prior. It's quite good. I would pay more than I currently am to continue having access to it.

I'm a person that doesn't need others. Occasional online chat few times a week with 2-3 of my friends basically fulfills my needs completely.

When reading about this I'm w bit afraid that my adoption of AI will be stifled because I don't need people. It kept me out of almost all of the social networks already.

While I don't care about people or social networks I would really like to not miss on AI.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by creata »

scotty79 wrote: post #588
creata wrote: post #497

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> you're going to have to deal with them someday. I know this is a very depressing thought, but you don't have to deal with them someday. Even if there's no other way out, there's always suicide.

Or you can just get rich and emotionally self-sufficient enough to never depend on anyone. Although it's probably good to have end of life plan for when your body completely fails you because of old age.

Well, you need a fallback in case "just get rich" doesn't work out.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by HPsquared »

watwut wrote: post #511
HPsquared wrote: post #394

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Nordics, Eastern parts (except Czechia), even many parts of the UK have byelaws (e.g. Glasgow). Illegal in Russia and Ukraine too.

Russians drink anywhere and everywhere. Including cops themselves. Polish and Slovaks too. Ukraine has war related prohibition, other then that? Where exactly eastern is it not allowed (or not completely normalized to the point locals would be surprised there is such law)?

Maybe they just don't follow that law, but public drinking is apparently illegal in Poland, Romania, even some cities in Slovakia apparently. Supposedly the police in Poland take a strict approach? (See wiki article "Drinking in public / By country")

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by ent »

HPsquared wrote: post #394
RugnirViking wrote: post #386

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where is it illegal in Europe? I've not encountered this yet and I've lived here my whole life. It's always struck me as a weird puritanical American thing Looked online and found maps suggesting eastern Europe has more laws relating to it, although many of them in practice don't apply

Nordics, Eastern parts (except Czechia), even many parts of the UK have byelaws (e.g. Glasgow). Illegal in Russia and Ukraine too.

Well, at least the Finnish laws against it aren't enforced at all and public drinking is very common. Judging by what I've seen, it seems to be the case in Sweden too.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by OfficeChad »

rayiner wrote: post #155
IgorPartola wrote: post #142

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I’d like to offer an alternative explanation than AI to this. Shit is just too damn expensive. If you want to go hang out with friends it will cost you $4-8 for a cup of coffee. A dinner starts at $50/person. A trip to an amusement park is over $100 easily. The median individual income in the US currently is just over $65k/year or about $32.50/hour. That means half the workforce makes less than that. When an 8oz cock…

Coal miners in 1890s appalachia had healthier and more active social lives than american white collar workers. This does not have anything to do with economics.

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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ent wrote: post #607
HPsquared wrote: post #394

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Nordics, Eastern parts (except Czechia), even many parts of the UK have byelaws (e.g. Glasgow). Illegal in Russia and Ukraine too.

Well, at least the Finnish laws against it aren't enforced at all and public drinking is very common. Judging by what I've seen, it seems to be the case in Sweden too.

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