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Post by Tijdreiziger »

v5v3 wrote: post #508
somenameforme wrote: post #161

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Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

>Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point Not entirely correct. Apple is a software sales platform. Apple have stated that even older phones and iPads and macs will get the new OS26. Apple realised a long time ago that, as you said, consumers don't have a need to upgrade. So rather than taking the approach of others, which is to stop OS updates and then also security updates, which would result in compat…

Google tries to maintain a large user base as well.

The problem Google has is that they’re dependent on phone OEMs to release OS updates, but OEMs mostly don’t make money off software.

They ‘solved’ this by pushing a lot of security and OS features into Google Play Services, so they can update them independently of the OS. Today, you can get new apps and OS features even on older Android versions.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

MrDresden wrote: post #582

"Like, what if you recently bought tickets to see another summer blockbuster movie? Using Apple Wallet? And then you got this ad? It’d be completely sensible to be spooked by that, and conclude that Apple Wallet is tracking you." I am not in anyway agreeing with the tracking of people's activities and purchases, but if you use either of the main payment processor networks (VISA or MasterCard) then your purchase histo…

> if you use either of the main payment processor networks (VISA or MasterCard) then your purchase history is being tracked and sold to third parties.

[citation needed]

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Post by ta1243 »

simonklitj wrote: post #396
ta1243 wrote: post #273

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Not sure why I'd want USB-C and then have to spend a fortune to replace all my existing charger leads with the highly unreliable USB-C ecosystem.

My PS5, iPad, MacBook, Kindle all use USB-C. It sure would be nice to have just one charger.

My ipad uses ligtning, my kindle uses usb-mini, as does almost every other rechargable thing I have, from torches to portable fans.

My headphones are USB-C and by far the most unreliable. The switch uses USB-C too, but that sits in its dock.

My laptop will use USB-C, but only for some combinations of cables and chargers.

If USB-C was as reliable and dependable as USB-A I wouldn't have a problem.

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Post by ta1243 »

ericmay wrote: post #423
ta1243 wrote: post #269

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Thinking about my previous iphones > Just to be clear your suggesting that your 6 year old iPhone runs a suit of social media apps No, I deleted them all - other than youtube (premium, no adverts). I used to have them 10 years ago though so a 10 year old phone would run them. > full graphics games like Minecraft (or whatever the hell people play these days I don’t know) I have a few games to pass the time in some cas…

You're thinking about how you use your phone, not how most people use their phone. The reason people continue to upgrade their phones isn't always mindless consumerism. For example, when you write: > Headphones? My 25 year old phone will do that. Bluetooth? I'm fairly sure my 3GS did that. Sadly modern phones don't do wired headphones any more, so have regressed on that metric. You're already showing me how you don't…

Nobody I know buys a new phone until the battery dies on the old one.

Are you saying that modern airpods don't do bluetooth? And aren't supported on the iphone 11? People have used bluetooth headphones for 20 years. Why would apply regress?

> Yea man. That feature existed on Windows 3.1, ergo nobody should or would want to buy the next iPhone.

The point is it's software, which will run just as fine on a supercomputer from 2 years ago as it will on today. What features does an iphone 15 (14? 16? whatever) have that an 11 doesn't have to allow these features?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxrv97djw9o

> The tech spec of every new handset camera is usually an improvement on the previous generation. But even this isn’t a guaranteed sales generator any more.

> “What is definitely happening is that people are holding on to their phones for longer. Back in 2013 there were 30 million phones sold annually,” adds Mr Wood. “This year it will be around 13.5 million.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/latest-smartphone-iphone-...

> Nearly nine in 10 adults think buying the latest smartphone is a “waste of money”. Research polling 2,000 Britons revealed more than half are “bored” of trying to keep up-to-date with the latest tech. And three in four are no longer willing to pay a fortune to get it. As a result, almost a third intend to spend less on smartphones and other gadgets over the next two years.

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Post by carlosjobim »

fennecbutt wrote: post #542
carlosjobim wrote: post #504

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LCD/OLED displays are hardly usable outdoors or in well-lit spaces, unless you live in a very dark place geographically. They need to become at least twice as bright if not more to be pleasant to use, and by that point battery life and heat starts to become a problem. But if they are able to make it, I'm all the happier. If Apple manages to make a fully daylight compatible device (whichever display technology), then…

Apple don't make displays. So they won't manage to make anything of the sort.

Correct. But they can instruct their suppliers to make these displays.

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Post by zitsarethecure »

jonplackett wrote: post #507
t8sr wrote: post #248

I have never said and rarely thought this before, but I really hope the person who came up with / approved this idea got fired for it. It’s rare that you see something so unbelievably stupid and destructive of the shared pool of trust, which Apple spent 30 years building, only for one self-interested PM to blow a chunk of it up for no gain. If the person who came up with this reads this site, I hope they see this com…

It shows they must be REALLY worried about this movie. All the reviews I’ve read say it sucks. I’m an f1 fan and from what I’ve read it sounds all pretty dumb and fake.

I saw it last night. The cinematography of the racing sequences was interesting. The races they actually depicted were not, though. The human story line was trash, just a really hokey "old guy uses gut feeling to beat young people using science" movie plot. And Pitt did himself no favours in this movie with his acting.

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Post by carlosjobim »

SlowTao wrote: post #556
steveBK123 wrote: post #459

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I’ve dabbled in a bunch of those. Kindle. Remarkable. Daylight. The problem is it’s always a great 3rd or 4th device. Not sure there’s a high margin high volume demand for it.

Things like Daylight could be really great if the software was more tailored to the device. And even then, you are right, I don't think it will ever be anything more than niche. It is the kind of product that if it absolutely struck a chord would be 10% of the market absolute tops. Nothing wrong with that though. It is good to be a part of stable but solid market rather than trying to dominate it and fail.

That's like the people saying retina/HiDPI displays would only be niche, or that portable computing devices would only be niche. Good outside usable displays would revolutionize the world – especially in places that get a lot of sun. And Apple is probably the only company which would be able to capitalize on that with a "new" category of product. It's not different than people needing clothes for cold weather and for warm weather. Right now we only have indoor clothes...

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Post by danaris »

madeofpalk wrote: post #387
t8sr wrote: post #248

I have never said and rarely thought this before, but I really hope the person who came up with / approved this idea got fired for it. It’s rare that you see something so unbelievably stupid and destructive of the shared pool of trust, which Apple spent 30 years building, only for one self-interested PM to blow a chunk of it up for no gain. If the person who came up with this reads this site, I hope they see this com…

> destructive of the shared pool of trust Will there actually be any short, mediumm, or long term consequences for Apple? What real, tangible trust has Apple lost that could lead to meaningful harm to them? The only thing I can come up with is people who hold Apple to some kind of high-minded ideal, that they constantly run foul of for other reasons already.

Threads like this one are a short-term consequence for Apple.

People here, discussing it, a) demonstrate that they find the act to represent a breach of trust, and b) spread that understanding and opinion among those who read it.

That's not, in itself, a direct consequence for Apple, but it is something they need to be, and I genuinely believe are, worried about, because losing trust in them is precisely the kind of thing that will get people to stop buying their products. This is especially true given the way they've positioned themselves as a more trustworthy actor in the privacy field.

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Post by lightedman »

xyzzyz wrote: post #200
ericmay wrote: post #196

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> I have a 6 year old phone that was cheap when it was new, and it still runs 100% of what I use my phone for, and most people use their phones for, perfectly. Just to be clear your suggesting that your 6 year old iPhone runs a suit of social media apps, full graphics games like Minecraft (or whatever the hell people play these days I don’t know), fitness apps, connects to the latest audio devices like Apple’s AirPod…

I don’t know anyone who uses their phone to play full graphics games or use it to plan out interior design, and for everything else, a 6 year old iPhone can most definitely do all of that. I know, because I did all of these things on an iPhone 11 up until earlier this year, and I only replaced it because the charging port was damaged.

"I don’t know anyone who uses their phone to play full graphics games or use it to plan out interior design"

I use mine to design mines so people underground don't get killed - way more intensive than interior decorating.

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Post by gosub100 »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #597
ghostpepper wrote: post #557

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>> They sell a lot of headphones I guess. If you are still using bluetooth headphones as they existed 10+ years ago, and haven't tried using apple headphones with an apple computer/phone, you are missing a massive quality of life upgrade in terms of basically never having to do the pairing dance again after your initial purchase.

You don’t have to do that with non-Apple headphones either. The bigger problem with Bluetooth headphones is that the batteries are non-replaceable, so consumers are incentivized to throw them out every few years (just like smartphones).

This doesn't match my experience. Even gen 5 Bluetooth on android is still choc full of gotchas and erratic behavior.
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