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Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by mbostleman »

cle wrote: post #415
dten wrote: post #158

I found out yesterday that the port of LA has a free real-time dashboard ( https://tower.portoptimizer.com/ ) so you can check the stats yourself. While it's interesting that next (week 19) shows a 35% drop YoY, the following week predicts a 25% increase from w19 and "only" 8.7% drop YoY.

Week 9->10 2025 had a 35% drop too. And Week 9->10 2024 had a 45% drop and a 26% drop Week 16->17 2024. Starting to wonder how significant this news really is?

It’s sad that these posts of relevant facts - that are only presented as such, with no judgement - are being downvoted, apparently because they don’t supportive a narrative. One of the things I’ve always loved about Hacker News was how the community was so curious about truth. I guess all good things come to an end at some point.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Post by pixl97 »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #584
TylerE wrote: post #573

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tariffs are based on departure not arrival date.

That's easy enough to fake. How is US customs going to know when a German company's ship registered in the Philippines left a Chinese port?

There is a pretty huge amount of ship and satellite tracking these days

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #584
TylerE wrote: post #573

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tariffs are based on departure not arrival date.

That's easy enough to fake. How is US customs going to know when a German company's ship registered in the Philippines left a Chinese port?

You’d just lie about which ship it was on.

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Post by kentm »

const_cast wrote: post #597
kentm wrote: post #592

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… was not Democrats refusing to accept election results. Thats a talking point by republicans trying to downplay Jan 6 and the false electors plot, not actual fact.

And, to be fair, as time goes on allegations of Russian allegiance on the part of Trump seem less and less far-fetched.

Mueller’s findings were not exactly a ringing exoneration despite how the right likes to frame it. A lot of people went to jail and he specifically said that he couldn’t exonerate and only stopped the investigation due to DoJ policy, and noted that congress could continue.

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Post by 3vidence »

hahajk wrote: post #588
taylodl wrote: post #7

This could get really ugly when the shelves start going empty. This may make the toilet paper incident seem quaint in comparison.

If it's famine you're worried about, I think we'll be ok as long as the govt doesn't try to set prices/mandate supply [1] (which isn't out of the question I suppose.) If it's war due to decreased economic interdependence, well yes that would be much worse. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theories_of_famines

Setting prices seems like it is just one executive order away...

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Post by roxolotl »

bluGill wrote: post #440
nonethewiser wrote: post #397

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Wouldn't there be an excess of containers?

No because containers are in high demand overall. While the US is importing less, stuff to the EU is taking the long way around Africa and that means more containers are needed.

Containers are also manufactured… in China. Container, sea and others, are products in and of themselves so importing them for use even just to transport goods domestically will cost more.

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Post by rasz »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #519
DrillShopper wrote: post #484

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The Republicans are the party of Trump. You're going to get nowhere near 20 out of 53 to convict. They will not let him get thrown out of office. If they didn't vote for impeachment in the two times he was impeached in his first term, and if they supported him after January 6th then they're not going to vote for impeachment now. The Republicans under Nixon were the same party in name only, and they did not have the s…

The senate is less the party of Trump as they have to win state wide elections and Trump barely beat Harris. They also tend to have longer tenures that spans presidents. While he is ascendant he can command loyalty, but once his ship is sinking the rats will abandon him faster in the senate than the house. The house takes care of itself with its relatively rapid turnover, making incumbents more likely to stick by him…

>they have to win state wide elections

With the way current events unfold there might not be any more elections.

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Post by rasz »

ryandrake wrote: post #281
jillesvangurp wrote: post #162

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Empty shelves are just one of the symptoms. The real pain will come from companies having to deal with increased taxes (that's what tariffs are) for Chinese components, decreased exports (counter tariffs, anti US sentiments), etc. and then their follow up to that would be using tools like layoffs, price increases, etc. Some of those companies might have to close doors and go bankrupt. If that happens a lot you get th…

> Worst case all this triggers a recession. Recession is probably the best case scenario. If only we get through this with just a recession! The world's economic inter-dependence is one of the things that have kept World War 3 at bay for decades. Nobody's going to start a hot war with their neighbor when they rely on each other through trading. Russia shows what happens when you economically isolate a country with sa…

russia is absolute reverse of what you believe. putin didnt even blink about all the German gas trade when attacking Ukraine.

https://www.dw.com/en/the-history-of-nord-stream/a-58618313

"In the early 2000s, however, German politicians had developed a contrary, more liberal theory — that more economic interdependence between Russia and western Europe would create peace in the long run. As trade increased, democracy would inevitably prevail."

>Do we really want an isolated, independent and self-sufficient China?

China being cut off from ~15%? of their market does not mean China isolation, it means US rewriting Child labor laws to fill Walmart shelves.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/03/31/us-child-...

https://www.newsweek.com/child-labor-laws-changed-five-state...

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-la...

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Post by Aurornis »

throw310822 wrote: post #118
Aurornis wrote: post #55

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> On the other hand, I guess it might be a great time for small shops and businesses that produce low to medium tech stuff- from crafts, clothing and furniture to electronics. Absolutely not. All of the small businesses I know are getting crushed by tariffs. Electronics especially. With 125% tariffs on everyone from China, prices just exploded. Even domestic PCB manufacturers prices and lead times have shot up due to…

I didn't mean that this is going to be a net positive or even better than disastrous. I'm just saying that if you already have a small business in the US making stuff that was hard to sell locally given the cheaper competition from abroad, people will have no choice but come to you. > Even domestic PCB manufacturers prices and lead times have shot up due to demand. Exactly this, I bet those PCB manufacturers are quit…

> if you already have a small business in the US making stuff that was hard to sell locally given the cheaper competition from abroad, people will have no choice but come to you.

Not true for many businesses. It’s common to have some inputs or machinery that is imported. Maybe you can win while you’re working through inventory and your machines aren’t breaking down, but if your COGS also go up with tariffs then it might not be a clear win.

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Post by D-Coder »

kmeisthax wrote: post #512
robomartin wrote: post #269

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I am very much on the fence on this one. I can tell you, without a shadow of a doubt, based on having been in manufacturing across various industries for over thirty years, that the US and Europe have been on a path to loose nearly all manufacturing capacity within ten years, maybe twenty at best. How do we compare the pain (and yes, some destruction) that we have to endure today against the devastation that is clear…

My only complaint with China's intellectual property theft is that they don't share. It's my genuine belief that the vast majority of intellectual property ownership is purely to draw a moat around a country's oligarchs. Copyright does not protect creators and patents do not protect inventors[0]. Trump's thinking is: - America used to have lots of tariffs in the 70s, and lots of jobs in the 70s, - But we got rid of t…

> Trump's thinking is:

Objection, your Honor! Assuming facts not in evidence!

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