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Post by HideousKojima »

codexon wrote: post #379
ethbr1 wrote: post #260

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Aka how Facebook originally launched (.edu-only) Social network culture is a multipart problem: 1. You need quality posters 2. You need to provide value to those posters 3. You need to remove low-quality posts attracted by site growth Any system that creates the above will be successful. The rub is that the humans behind (1) are free agents, with little incentive to stick to the site once (2) fails. Hence rapid Digg-…

I would say that reddit quality has declined a huge amount, but people won't leave because there's a huge network effect. Nobody will join a reddit clone that is 95% functionally the same because there's nobody there. Every community that tried to migrate off reddit to a reddit clone has failed. As an example of why reddit is so bad now (aside from the obvious moderation issues) about 1-2 years ago, reddit added a bl…

Every community that tried to migrate off reddit to a reddit clone has failed.

r/drama spun off their own site successfully, and I know of another community that did and is thriving using a fork of r/drama's server software (won't say which to keep the normies away)

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Post by Der_Einzige »

FiniteField wrote: post #509
codexon wrote: post #375

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> I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. Because it is the 2nd most active category, and the racist/alt-right beliefs have spread to the other boards because the head admin fires anyone that tries to moderate it. https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-helped-turn-4cha... On top of that, they actively delete and ban posts that go against alt-right. I discussed it somewhat recently here: htt…

All of this sentiment is many years out of date. "Alt-right" hasn't been a term of self-identification for almost a decade, and hasn't been used as an identifier by pretty much anyone for at least half of that. /pol/ is not the epicentre of the radical online right and has not been for years - it's a backwater in that regard now. The most notable radicalisation happening on /pol/ nowadays, in my opinion, is a kind of…

The fact that you had to explain this is evidence that those who try to fight the kind of ideology which is spreading on that website have no hope.

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Post by gopher_space »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #581
ryandrake wrote: post #556

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> Just with a bunch of extra features hastily grafted and grown organically, but never dealing with the insane amount of technical debt. This describes probably 95%+ of the entire software world, from enterprise, to SaaS to IoT to mobile to desktop to embedded... Everything seems to be hastily thrown together features that barely work and piles of debt that will never get fixed. It's a wonder anything actually even w…

>If cars (the non-software parts) were made like this, there would be millions of them breaking down by the side of the road daily. I’m an automotive CE… we’re getting there. Cars used to be DONE at lots… now, there are weeks to finish code before the customer lays hands on, and that time is factored in now. Worse with OTA updates. Now, so long as it’s fixed if enough customers complain that’s good enough. Cars used…

OTA firmware updates are so insane. Does your insurance company understand what’s going on?

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Post by Aloisius »

Calinterman wrote: post #301
fastglass wrote: post #253

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I feel too many people who don't conflate /pol/ with the whole website, as well as the others, don't know why /pol/ was created. It was eventually a replacement for the /new/ board, where news of the arab spring first started, shortly before it was shut down. However, it was plagued with proto-pol behavior before anyone was bothering to complain about pol. There was always these 'cells' of non /jp/ shitposters, if th…

I feel too many people who conflate /pol/ with the whole website are just regurgitating information they heard from other social media sites. The most popular boards, by far, since 2020 have been the video game and vtuber boards. With Video Game generals being the most popular board for the past five years outside of the occasional political season. You can check this on 4stats. People who still complain about /pol/…

For most of the period from 2020 to 2023, /pol/ has had more posts/day than any other board, often substantially more and it was 2nd most of the time. The /vt/ is a pretty distant 4th behind /v/.

I'm not entirely certain that I would call /pol/, which generates upwards of 110K posts/day a tiny phenomenon. It's about 13% of all 4chan posts. Add in /b/ and it's about a fifth.

And of course, casual bigotry is all over 4chan, not just /pol/.

https://4stats.io/

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Post by what »

valiant55 wrote: post #331
ethbr1 wrote: post #233

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I had to watch that at 2x to keep the thoughts-per-second above catatonic. In the same vein, for those who haven't seen it, the classic "Is soup a drink?" debate: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNuz_VFJtU Somewhere, there are ancient Greek rhetoric teachers spinning in their graves.

Is cereal soup?

No, that’s just an extra dressed salad.

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Post by Wobbles42 »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #65
pjc50 wrote: post #17

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Always curious to know what kind of speech this kind of complaint refers to.

It's not what you think. Let me give you an example. /k/ is the weapons/military forum, and it's unironically run by US government authorities. Vulgar racial slurs are wholly permitted -- but if you question certain aspects of US military or foreign policy, or suggest that Russia/China/etc. aren't houses of cards that will topple the moment the US wills it, your comment will probably be deleted and you'll be hit with…

/k/ has been the U/k/raine board since that invasion started and you risk a ban for deviating from that topic.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

kypro wrote: post #501
WickyNilliams wrote: post #437

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The intent of the posters may be ironic subversion. But for those reading? There's no doubt some portion that mistake it for sincerity and are quietly being radicalised by it all. Poe's Law and all that

I think I'd argue the issue here is a lack of diversity of views because exposure to radical views is the only thing that protects me from them. Although I might not be normal in that regard. I would accept this is a problem though. I just question whether the solution is censoring views. I guess I'll give an example... In the UK there's a lot of people questioning why young boys today seem to often hold such radical…

100% facts. The fact that mainstream folks simply cannot understand how or why boys are in such a bad spot is exactly why 4chan was popular in the first place.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

codexon wrote: post #423
optimalsolver wrote: post #395

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interracial porn is frequently used by the alt-right racists to point out the evils of "race mixing" and to blame jews for being the producers of it. It is not an anti alt-right point at all. Even if its posted by someone that is against the alt-right, it becomes a post to unify alt-right users.

It’s because they sexualize their fears. A lot of real fear of the BBC from scrawny white kids there.

Also why cuckolding, and other very embarrassing (for men) fetishes are popular there.

I unironically worry more about the degenerate fetishes that 4chan spreads more than the dumbass political ideologies they purport to have. Americans views of sexuality is so warped and sad because of mind viruses like this.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

creatonez wrote: post #577
optimalsolver wrote: post #395

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I'm sorry, what? The 4chan community is racially tolerant because they post porn of all varieties and not just a few?

Yes, they also love passing trans people.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/favela-trans-girl-saga

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

HideousKojima wrote: post #599
KennyBlanken wrote: post #542

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Multiple white supremacist mass shooters have been 4chan users. 4chan cheered on the Buffalo shooter who was live updating a 4chan thread during his murder spree: https://www.thetrace.org/newsletter/4chan-moderation-buffalo... The christchurch shooter was a 4chan regular https://theconversation.com/christchurch-terrorist-discussed... The whole "boogaloo" white nationalist/supremacist movement started on 4chan: https:…

And the Zizian murder cult sprang out of the bay area rationalist community and trans rights advocacy, what's your point?

You say this like the rationalist community and 4chan edgelords aren't two circles with an incredible amount of overlap.
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