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Good luck finding Zyyzzyzx Balleyhew whose address on the temporary card is registered at PO Box 42069, Utqiagvik, AK
And you can just get a card with a fake adress?
Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash
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Who talked about "real" here? Photographers do manipulate cameras, and rework afterwise the images to develop. Digital artists do manipulate digital tools. Their output is a large function of their informed input, experience, taste, knowledge, practice and intention, using their own specific tools in their own way. Same with developers: the result is a function of their input (architecture, code, etc.). Garbage in, g…
> With AI prompters, the output is part function of the (very small) prompt, part function of the (huuuuuuuge) training set, part randomness. With photographers, the output is part function of the (very small) orientation of the camera and pressing the button, part function of the (huuuuuuuge) technical marvel that are modern cameras, part randomness. Let's be realistic here. Without the manufactured cameras, 99.9% o…
Ludicrous rebuttal.
Reducing this to "orientation of the camera" is such a dismissive take on the eye and focus of the person that decides to take a picture, where/when he/she is; this is really revealing you do not practice it.
And... before cameras were even electronic, back in the early 2000, there were already thousands and more of extremely gifted photographers.
Yes, cameras are marvellous tools. But they are _static_. They don't dynamically, randomly change the input.
Generative AI are not _static_. They require training sets to be anywhere near useful.
Cameras _do not_ feed on all the previous photographies taken by others.
Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash
#603They'd get a lot less pushback if the annual plan was billed anually like other services, they wouldn't even need to refund part of the remaining time when users cancel auto-renew.
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Do you think multi-month agreements like car insurance or leases should also be illegal? Maybe if you leased a car but 3 months in you're not really feeling it, you should be able to cancel your lease without penalty?
You're extrapolating to cases that are different to a subscription to a digital software service. Companies have slowly but steadily made us shift and put subscriptions in our heads because is the easiest way to make more money and strictly control their software. This is just as pushing ads everywhere is the easiest way to make money on almost every website. The ideal, most fair consumer approach is to charge the us…
>You're extrapolating to cases that are different to a subscription to a digital software service. Companies have slowly but steadily made us shift and put subscriptions in our heads because [...]
Sounds like you're less against the concept of "annual, billed monthly" or even the "dark patterns" that Adobe is using, and more against the fact that Photoshop is now behind a $30/month subscription rather than an one-time purchase price like in the Good Old Days™.
Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash
#605Man, this was fun to see in real time. A site whose earliest adopters were Twitter refugees who hated the crypto/AI/NFT boosters, created actual art, and ultimately left Twitter because of rampant fascism and bigotry, effectively cyberbullied the company and its Head of Social Media so badly the latter left the site entirely. You have to be pretty bad at your job to misread the room so terribly. Just taking a casual…
This is a spot on analysis. Bluesky and Mastodon are full of people that felt and continue to feel disenfranchised and excluded. They embraced Bluesky because it reminded them of what Twitter used to be and had found themselves what they felt was a relatively safe space. Companies like Adobe and other major tech players have enabled the hostile environment we see growing every day. It’s no wonder that disingenuous po…
Yup. The increasing fragmentation of social media means you really need to understand the community you’re targeting before engaging in outreach. More communities are going to be less tolerant of brands and advertisers in general given current events and over-saturation of advertising in general, so every engagement point matters way more.
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Reverse class action isn't a thing, there's no way to sue thousands of people all at once, so they'd have to bring their suit against every individual who did it. Costs would be guaranteed to be much higher than any possible recovery.
Why would they sue? Just send it to collections and let them sort it out?
Collections rarely does anything. I mean they will nag you, but you ask them to only contact you in writing, and it basically goes away. The collection agency could sue you, but it's rare. It involves putting together a realistic case (we are sure this person signed this contract and owes us $X) and that is expensive.
The billing your credit card 50% is a "well we tried" type thing. They're happy if it works out, but not unhappy if it doesn't.
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That is not how copyright works. "Inspired" works can still be derrivative. In the US, entirely deterministic works are not considered derrivative works as they aren't considered new creative works (if anything they are considered the same as the original). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_v._Corel...
“In the US, entirely deterministic works are not considered derrivative works as they aren't considered new creative works (if anything they are considered the same as the original)” Okay, so if the inputs to the model are my artwork to replicate my style, is the output copyrightable by you? You just said deterministic works aren’t derivative, they’re considered the same as the original. That’s not anything I’ve hear…
That depends on how much "creativity" is in the prompt, but generally i would lean towards no, the AI created work is not copyrightable by the person who used the model to "create" it.
I believe that is the conclusion the US copyright office came to as well https://www.copyright.gov/ai/ (i didnt actually read their report, but i think that's what it says)
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I didn't get much negativity on Twitter, and after moving the Bluesky the same is true. The experience of a person following fantasy football stuff, and another person following politics, will be totally different, regardless of website.
I don’t use either lately because I’ve found that to be better for mental health overall, but to me it seemed that Bluesky was generally better about staying “on track” when it comes to showing relevant things, once trained. Xitter really, really likes to veer off course and so much as stopping scrolling for a second while an undesired post is on screen is enough for it to start showing more of the same type. Bsky do…
> but to me it seemed that Bluesky was generally better about staying “on track” when it comes to showing relevant things, once trained. Xitter really, really likes to veer off course and so much as stopping scrolling for a second while an undesired post is on screen is enough for it to start showing more of the same type.
What is your "track"? Bluesky seemed to be behaving exactly like you described Twitter, and the only explanation I could come up with was that the process of clicking on a post to block/mute the account (which is what I was told to do to curate my feed) was considered enough engagement that my feed should be more and more of what I don't want any of.
Re: Adobe deletes Bluesky posts after backlash
#609> there would be no respite if I paid annually, nor could I receive one of those special invitations for a 35% discount
Offering a discount to new customers while no discounts for existing, loyal customers always seemed backwards to me. Back in the Zortech days, we'd offer upgrades to existing customers at a steep discount.
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Our deepest condolences. Losing a marketing bullhorn is always difficult.
Being intolerant of soulless rent-seeking corporations doesn’t turn you into a cool person. It just shows you are intolerant. There must be a name for the phenomenon when a minority escapes persecution and hate, and upon reaching their promised land become intolerant and hateful of any outside group.
Nah, it makes gp cool as fuck actually.