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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by 9rx »

Etheryte wrote: post #592
9rx wrote: post #540

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> Assuming four generations attend In my neck of the woods that would only be considered a "family gathering". You will see that group on a fairly regular basis (holidays, birthdays, quiet weekend, etc.) A "family reunion", indicating reuniting of family that doesn't see each other so often, extends further – at least five or even six generations. But also 4 kids is nothing for a Bin Laden. Maybe if you multiply by 1…

I'm assuming there's a mixup here with what you take the word "generation" to mean? A generation is generally all the people of a rough age group, so your parents and your spouse's parents are from the same generation. A generation is usually considered to be roughly 25-30 years wide, since that's about when people have kids. I wouldn't really say it's realistic for six generations to attend, that would mean everyone…

No mixup, but the intent was to mean where the most recent common ancestor goes back five, maybe six generations. The eldest generations may not be in attendance (or alive), but their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, great-great grandchildren... That is the point where, around here, family starts to fragment enough that they rarely see each other but still maintain enough ties to want to occasionally reunite.

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Post by kazinator »

metabagel wrote: post #427
kragen wrote: post #416

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Possibly because the comment section will inevitably collapse into a partisan flamewar.

Shouldn't be a partisan issue.

It's a race issue. We only know about this story at all because the woman is a milk-white Canadian. It's not supposed to happen to people like her, which is makes it extra outrageous.

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Post by zabzonk »

apwell23 wrote: post #455
causal wrote: post #369

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Disingenuous take, did you even read the article? 1) She was not detained in connection with any crime whatsoever. At no point was her company's use of THC stated as a reason for detainment. 2) You have invented the idea that her second job was fake. If it were, then fraud could have been a crime and reason for detainment- but again, the article makes it clear no crime was charged or cited. 3) You are right that plen…

After a long interrogation, the officer told me it seemed “shady” and that my visa hadn’t been properly processed. He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. i don't know what hemp is or how is related to THC.

Hemp and cannabis are both varieties of the plant Cannabis sativa. Hemp contains less THC, and is used for things like making rope.

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #360
fzeroracer wrote: post #267

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Because this has historically worked so well with the War On Drugs and the sheer amount of people America puts into prison, yeah? Weird how no matter how hard we ratchet up draconian enforcement measures it doesn't seem to work. And in this scenario, we're chasing away tourists, foreign talent and more. But hey, at least those sweet private prisons get their kickback from the layers of corruption.

Illegal border crossings have dropped to almost zero. The policy is working. Private ICE detention centers don’t get any money if people don’t cross the border illegally.

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Post by kragen »

ben_w wrote: post #587
kragen wrote: post #487

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While I agree with you, it is observably true that many people take different positions on the issue and then demonize those who disagree with them, converting it into a partisan issue. Another commenter (now deleted) made the claim that, saying an issue shouldn't be partisan is “ just saying ‘everyone should believe what I do’ but in the lexicon of people who look down their nose at the general public. ” They added,…

> They added, "The only nonpartisan issues are the most basic of things that all societies have like "don't murder people" (but even then the minutia become debatable)." Although the comment has been deleted, I think this merits a little further exploration, because there is some truth to it, though I disagree more than I agree. For example, that time when English people in England didn't count: https://en.wikipedia.…

I don't think there is anything to be gained from enumerating the cases when one or another society has condoned killing people, which are so numerous and diverse that they may have accounted for the majority of all of the people who have died. Everyone is aware that such cases exist, I think.

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Post by loeg »

skyyler wrote: post #102
blindriver wrote: post #75

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Are voters only supposed to limit their votes about things candidates say during the election? If so does that mean voting against Trump for Jan 6 insurrection was wrong? Or can voters vote against Harris because of policies she has endorsed before the election?

>If so does that mean voting against Trump for Jan 6 insurrection was wrong? Well, no, because he campaigned on that. Including pardons for people that participated.

It is reasonable for voters to consider politicians' behavior before the most recent election cycle and ridiculous to say voters should have ignored Harris' earlier statements. (And I say that as someone who voted for Harris.)

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Post by gs17 »

rsanek wrote: post #561
gs17 wrote: post #365

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> outside the horrible behaviour of border officers who show you that you are not welcome They've always (in my life, which is largely post 9/11) done that to US citizens too. Going into Canada it was "where are you going to? the beach, eh? have a nice day!", coming back seemed to be performed under the suspicion that our passports were fake and our car was made out of drugs. Despite doing nothing wrong, we were alwa…

never experienced this as a us citizen and I travel often. usually it is a polite "welcome home", otherwise it's a bored "ok you're good"

Are you flying or driving? These were at land borders in Michigan, maybe they're more strict when you try to bring in a whole vehicle instead of a few suitcases that have gone through inspections.

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Post by rayiner »

cratermoon wrote: post #375
rayiner wrote: post #350

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[flagged]

> At a certain point the foreigners will turn America into the country they came from. You say that like it's a bad thing. OH NOES the US will become more democratic and equitable and less racist and hateful

> OH NOES the US will become more democratic and equitable and less racist and hateful

If those countries are “more democratic and equitable and less racist and hateful” then why are people coming here?

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Post by wswope »

Tostino wrote: post #546
greggyb wrote: post #237

Why is this flagged? First of all, it's about an entrepreneur traveling to the US for a startup, which is directly relevant to a significant proportion of YCombinator founders themselves. Beyond its direct relevance to the core founding audience of HN, it is not clickbait or wantonly inflammatory, and is clearly of interest to many based on the comment activity and votes.

I've noticed this a ton lately. So, so many posts completely brigaded. Regardless of if the flag is removed, it can easily stop discussion and visibility of the thread. I emailed Dang about it when I first noticed it happening, and the response... ``` Sorry for the delay in getting back to you—it's been a crazy last few days! Users flagged that one. We can only guess why users flag things, but there have been so many…

I’ve emailed Dan and received the same response. My suspicions completely mirror yours.

I find this line particularly weak:

> We can only guess why users flag things

It’s not that hard to do some clustering analysis to see if bad-faith actors are repeatedly flagging posts in a coordinated manner. Maybe he’s trying to avoid giving away anti-spam secret sauce, but that doesn’t seem likely given the language of the copypasta. Speaking for myself, I would like any sort of assurance that anything other than a 100% laissez-faire approach to flag abuse is happening.

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