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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#601

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> the other one poured jet fuel in when they opened it welp guess i'm never flying again

Per mine and per hour flying is still much safer than driving

Anyone know the math on how many crashes it would take until this would equalize?

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#602

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Presumably it helped that they crashed into a thick pile of snow in freezing conditions - I imagine that would slow the spread of the fire. But still, that’s astonishing footage in the Reddit post linked above. Incredible that no one died.

All that snow is going to do next to a jet fuel fire is create a lot of steam.

...and absorbing lots of heat as it evaporates.

There's a reason water is used for firefighting.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#603
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The US Forest Service also banned firefighting foam in parks or anywhere where endangered species are found. Now that they're defunded I bet we're gonna get a lot more of that stuff everywhere

Don’t forget OSHA. Those chemicals and nomex turnout gear are a source of elevated cancers in firefighters.

...and not the large amounts of smoke they're exposed to?

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#604

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yep, it's caused by Baader–Meinhof

It's the democratic deep state crashing them to make Trump look bad ... HA

Nope just wind, people just can't get Trump out of their head, including yourself.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#605
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Dude, this happened in Toronto, Canada.

Yea. Totally man. A country in which I am a citizen. But an American airline and in a time where aspects of society are trying to deregulate everything. (maybe I should qualify all of my internet comments that I spent 29 years in the US, then 18 years in Canada, and now like 2 years back in the US. Would that help?)

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Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#606

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Per mine and per hour flying is still much safer than driving

Retention of agency carries a benefit you’re not calculating

I trust the competency of a professional pilot over my driving capabilities, even though the most serious incident I've ever had in 25 years of driving is a parking ticket.

Add in all of the _other_ drivers on the road (compared to professional pilots in controlled spaces), and it's not even close.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#608

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It can aid pilots, for one thing. I watch air-safety/accident-analysis videos all the time. They are often extremely informative and promote a safety-oriented mindset and the refreshment of one's commitment to procedure. I also read scuba-diving accident reports. They reinforce best practices that I also explain to others in the context of what I've seen in said reports over and over.

Watching the various yt vids with pilots etc, I am considerably less anxious about flying.

Also a good point!

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#609
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It's mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn't have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time. You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles' nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports. Then of course there's the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...

It happens to be that another pilot from a plane waiting to take off form the very same runway was filming the approach [1]. Purely by chance we have HD footage. It does make a huge difference and I agree with the sentiment that this would make flying safer. [1] https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGNgCI0MC68/

Well... we have door-shaped footage that might be HD vertically, because he had his camera turned the wrong way.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#610

Clear view from the plane waiting to take off https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1isabt... Which also brings into mind cockpit distractions but its amazing they caught this on video.

That was a navy landing. Looks like the landing gear buckled. Also doesn’t look like there was much flaring prior to touchdown.
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