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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

lodovic wrote: post #569
deathanatos wrote: post #566

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> Subreddits like r/pics are packed full of thinly veiled death threats towards the sitting president or Elon Musk. This is just blatant misinformation. Since r/pics is the only example you've chosen to give us, let's evaluate it: I've scrolled through the current first 50 posts in Hot, and 0 of them are death threats, thinly veiled or otherwise. "Packed full", indeed. And here, so it isn't simply my word vs. his; th…

You're missing the point. The real issue is that r/pics, a subreddit that should be about photography enthusiasm, has become so hyperfocused on politics, that it only features posts that are critical of Musk and Trump. As is evident from the list of active topics you posted.

Is r/pics explicitly apolitical? Does it tend to feature current events and is that lineup just proportional to the magnitude of what's happening right now?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by throwawaythekey »

intended wrote: post #581
throwawaythekey wrote: post #567

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Yeah "packed full" is probably a bit too heavy here. To pick a few examples though: - The nazi punching thread had several moderated comments ranked near the top which were presumably calls to violence. - The Mitch McConnal thread has many people looking forward to his death, hoping he goes to hell, and a few deleted comments. - A musk thread has "eat the rich" and storm the capitol. Not super highly ranked. I didn't…

That helped the issue click into place - NONE of the past 15 days are unremarkable. And again, ITS BEEN 15 Days! If you stop your thought at just “people are losing their shit”, thats seeing half the world. I’d say thats disingenuous, because it misses or dismisses the incredibly alarming actions that have precipitated them. If you genuinely care about it, then you might be interested in knowing why people are respon…

Let me put it another way. Trump is likely to try many outrageous and unexpected things.

As someone who tries to be non partisan, and isn't even american, I am fatigued by all of the claims that the world within the USA is ending. Whenever I take the time to examine any of the claims they tend to be fairly hollow or making slippery slope arguments.

As an international user of reddit, there are many of us I presume, I want the outrage to be saved for Trumps undeniable and worst offenses. In my eyes the memecoin was worse than anything which has happened since he became president and yet it has completely left the collective focus. Everything since then has just been a mix of people allowing trump to dictate the media cycle and the deep state deploying its immune system.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by throwawaythekey »

Dalewyn wrote: post #572
xvector wrote: post #568

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It feels like everyone forgot Reddit's roots as far as its politics are concerned. Namely, the place was Libertarian Central on the internet until 2015 when it got astroturfed basically overnight to swing the other way. I was there to witness it and the whiplash was something fierce. Reddit has been basically unusable for anything concerning politics since, and nowadays with politics leaking out into every damn sub p…

It's a shame it's become hard to make free speech arguments on reddit. RIP Aaron Swartz.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by xvector »

intended wrote: post #581
throwawaythekey wrote: post #567

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Yeah "packed full" is probably a bit too heavy here. To pick a few examples though: - The nazi punching thread had several moderated comments ranked near the top which were presumably calls to violence. - The Mitch McConnal thread has many people looking forward to his death, hoping he goes to hell, and a few deleted comments. - A musk thread has "eat the rich" and storm the capitol. Not super highly ranked. I didn't…

That helped the issue click into place - NONE of the past 15 days are unremarkable. And again, ITS BEEN 15 Days! If you stop your thought at just “people are losing their shit”, thats seeing half the world. I’d say thats disingenuous, because it misses or dismisses the incredibly alarming actions that have precipitated them. If you genuinely care about it, then you might be interested in knowing why people are respon…

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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

switchbak wrote: post #299
ziddoap wrote: post #166

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> It's unfortunate people expect you to have social media like a girl asks me if I have Instagram and I'm weird to not have one Outside of reddit/discord/hn, I haven't had any social media since roughly 2010, and I don't use reddit or discord for anything remotely "social media"-ish. While I still get the occasional look as if I'm wearing a tinfoil hat when I say "I don't have FB. No, no insta either. No... not snapc…

How did you miss out on job opportunities by not being on social media?

I've found work via twitter. I left it last year, but I can't deny it had some networking benefits which can lead to job opportunities.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

carlosjobim wrote: post #432
ge96 wrote: post #123

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I quit reddit too recently, I still look at it for info but I'm not logged in/scrolling through it I find myself reaching for something when I have YouTube/chilling at my desk at the end of the day, can't code anymore/make something just on till I sleep. Sometimes have the desire to play a video game (I have a gaming rig too funny how that works) I've been trying to read HN or IEEE, TechCrunch stuff like that as my "…

> It's unfortunate people expect you to have social media like a girl asks me if I have Instagram and I'm weird to not have one, I get it they can scope you out too for safety but when I tried using that stuff I felt this pressure to post about something It's not about scoping you out. Asking for your Instagram is like what asking for your number was in the past. It's flirting, it's that they want to get in touch aga…

> If you say "I don't have Instagram", the girl will assume that you don't like her, not that you don't have Instagram.

> So just make an empty Instagram

Why not, instead, say "I don't have Instagram, here's my [ bluesky handle / phone number / email address ]"?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by throwaway2037 »

AznHisoka wrote: post #294
ziddoap wrote: post #166

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> It's unfortunate people expect you to have social media like a girl asks me if I have Instagram and I'm weird to not have one Outside of reddit/discord/hn, I haven't had any social media since roughly 2010, and I don't use reddit or discord for anything remotely "social media"-ish. While I still get the occasional look as if I'm wearing a tinfoil hat when I say "I don't have FB. No, no insta either. No... not snapc…

I wouldn't care a whole lot if someone told me they weren't in IG, FB, Snap, Twitter, etc. However, if someone told me they never bothered with Linkedin, it would be hard for me to resist bowing at their feet.

I know that people here on HN love to dump on LinkedIn. That said, for some industries, it is the primary way to connect with headhunters and future employers. For me, I don't use any of the social aspect. I only post my CV details and wait for headhunters to contact me directly. It works well.

Are there any women (in highly developed countries) under 40 who aren't on some form of social media? I never met any. I think it would be more difficult than men for social reasons.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by throwaway2037 »

datavirtue wrote: post #530
xvector wrote: post #490

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It is scary that one platform has so much control over people's lives. If LinkedIn were to ban me for whatever reason tomorrow, finding a job would become virtually impossible.

I could still get a job but it would require more effort. I keep my network updated on what I'm doing and new opportunities, not just jobs, present themselves to me. People who avoid LinkedIn remind of those who scoff at the stock market. Yes, it sucks if you hold it wrong.

    > People who avoid LinkedIn remind of those who scoff at the stock market. Yes, it sucks if you hold it wrong.
This is pithy. I am adding this to my copy-pasta arsenal. Thank you.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Post by internet_points »

Glyptodon wrote: post #290

I don't have outrage fatigue. Outrages are outrages and they are what they are. Are there many exaggerations and fake outrages? Sure. But things like the USA's current constitutional crisis are real. What I struggle with isn't fatigue at outrage, it's knowing what to do about it. I think violence is going to become more common, but I don't particularly think it will be effective. So less so than outrage, it's the fee…

> So less so than outrage, it's the feeling that we're trapped in a real life doom loop with no clear off ramp that I struggle with.

> I would like to do something... But what?

That sounds exactly like outrage fatigue. And the solution is in this article: Read less social media, get more sunlight, instead of despairing at the global state[0] of the world, get involved in local issues where you can actually have a measurable effect.

[0] as programmers this should be self-evident

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