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Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by shawabawa3 »

zanek wrote: post #327
steve_avery wrote: post #55

Well, I think that justice has been served. The feds' prosecution of Ulbricht was the epitome of throwing the book at someone to make an example, when the government's case was pretty flawed, in my opinion. 10 years is enough time to pay the debt of running the silk road. I am glad that Ulbricht has been pardoned and I feel like a small iota of justice has been returned to the world with this action.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading the comments on this thread. Multiple teenagers (one in Australia) died from the drugs distributed on Silk Road. Ross was ok with selling grenades, body parts, etc on there. But everyone is saying he served his time ???

> Multiple teenagers (one in Australia) died from the drugs distributed on Silk Road

more or less than those who bought drugs from street dealers?

could it not be possible the silk road saved the lives of many more teenagers who would have died from street drugs otherwise?

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by mrpopo »

silver_silver wrote: post #503
offsign wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"he took it a bridge too far" is a massive trivialization. The guy operated a marketplace for illegal goods in order to enrich himself. The illegality wasn't just incidental, it was literally his business model -- by flouting the law, he enjoyed massive market benefit (minimal competition, lack of regulation, high margins etc) by exploiting the arbitrage that the rest of us follow the rules. Said a different way, he…

His sentence was excessive and cruel to make an example out of him. There’s a serial child rapist in the same prison serving less time.

Pretty sure Silk Road enabled loads of pedophiles to go about their activities. This is a false equivalence

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by [deleted] »

Satam wrote: post #397
syspec wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, it went over my head a bit, you read about his arrest while he was being arrested?

I had the same confusion initially, interestingly chat GPT gets it: So while wolfgang42 wasn't there when Ulbricht was actually arrested, their realization created a vivid mental image of the event unfolding in that space, which made the story feel more immersive. In short: they were reading about an old event, but it happened to occur in the same spot they were sitting at that moment. Hope that clears it up!

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Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by AlexandrB »

kube-system wrote: post #464
agentultra wrote: post #381

Is this president extremely concerned about drug dealers and gangs in the US? Why is he pardoning a drug trafficker?

Trump clearly values favoritism to a high degree. He is doing exactly as he has promised, running the country like a businessman. If you scratch his back, he will scratch yours. Principles take a back seat to "getting the job done". For other examples, see his changed stances on TikTok, various foreign interests, cryptocurrencies, EVs post Elon support, etc. And in the opposite vein, he abandons support for anyone wh…

Principled politicians are very rare. Do you think the outgoing administration was particularly principled?

People need to stop thinking of politicians as their friends and having parasocial relationships with them. They're public servants and should be treated as such.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by jmcgough »

agentultra wrote: post #381

Is this president extremely concerned about drug dealers and gangs in the US? Why is he pardoning a drug trafficker?

I don't think he knows who RA is, I'm betting the cryptobros who ran his rug pulls and NFTs for the last year have his ear after making him millions of dollars.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by jmkni »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #320
jsphweid wrote: post #104

From wikipedia: > "full and unconditional pardon for any crimes related to drugs". Does "any crimes related to drugs" include the murder for hire allegations? Does this mean new charges related to that could be brought against him?

Wasn't charges about paying a hitmen dropped?

IIRC it was to do with the conduct of the FBI agents posing as hitmen? I think they ended up in prison too, so a prosecution would be hard.
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