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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Antisemitic. Every time I hear this word, I can’t help but think of its irony—a term used exclusively for describing discrimination against one community, as if prejudice against them carries more weight than against any other. Perhaps, though, it serves as the best reflection of our hypocrisy.

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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I really don't think this belongs on the front page. It is a highly divisive political issue with strong radicalisation at the edges of any discourse on it. I have my own strong opinions on it, but arguing it does not in my opinon belong on the front page here. There are plenty of places you can go and have this discussion in as heated of a version as you prefer.

I disagree. #1 this topic is not as divisive as it may seem. There is consensus as to what is happening and only a minority of the world thinks otherwise.

#2 Israel is a major tech partner and most large tech companies have offices in Tel Aviv. Many startups that we discuss here are headquartered in Tel Aviv. The head of state of the country having an ICC arrest warrant and the situation at large have major consequences to the tech world and thus HackerNews users have a unique lens through which to have discourse. Discourse with an angle that you won't find elsewhere this is discussed.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Not to mention there are more semitic people than Jews. And Holocaust targeted more people, too. And there were pogroms against other poeple, too.

The Romani people for example (derogatorily called "gypsies". The term "gyp"—to scam—derives from stereotypes of Romani people) faced some of the most gruesome programs in history before facing the Romani Genocide in WW2. Yet we rarely talk about antiziganism the way we talk about antisemitism and people still casually throw around terms like "gyp"

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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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I first thought you were going to point out how the misuse of the word "antisemitic" is especially problematic here: Do the vast majority of people not understand correlation vs. causation? Because Netanyahu is Jewish does not mean an action against him is because he's Jewish. That they are willing to use such "cry wolf" tactics, abusing it, dilutes their credibility at minimum - and then should bring their integrity…

I mean, this has been standard operating procedure for the State of Israel for a long time now. Any criticism is dismissed as antisemitic. Personally, I don't think that's fair, but it's understandable why they would use it as a defence.

Because it works. Well, it used to work- today, I think it has lost all its value. Good riddance.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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I don't understand how a tiny country like Israel has become so important in global politics. By population Rwanda is ~30% larger than Israel.

From my weak understanding, it’s the only ally the west (USA) has in the Middle East, so they’re important strategically - for military bases and other reasons I don’t really understand, and so are propped up by financial aid and weapons and other help (intelligence etc?) beyond what would normally happen to a similar country.

That strategic relevance has long gone.

The current relevance is strictly dictated by internal political and demographic balances in the United States.

Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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If Netanyahu and Gallant declared as war criminals, does it also mean whoever helped them during the 2024 is complicit? Wondering what happens to so many Western leaders who supported Netanyahu unconditionally.

Like the US congress giving an applause and a standing ovation.
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