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Re: New iMac with M4

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Given that the lightning version picks up a nine hour charge in the time it takes to take a bathroom break or go get a cup of coffee, this is more of an excuse to make fun of the design than it is a real world show stopper. > The Apple Mouse 2 also comes with a Quick Charge feature that provides nine hours of use with a two-minute charge. https://www.jackery.com/blogs/knowledge/how-to-charge-apple-...

The moment it runs out of power isn't when you're you're taking a break, but while you're using it. You may change what you're doing and go take a break. But you also may be in the middle of a presentation.

Sounds like it’s not for you. And that’s ok.

I’m a long time MM user and have one at every computer I use (work and multiple personal). My first one was one with the AA batteries. Never had a problem with this.

If you have a car, you have to fill it up with gas (or charge the battery) too and you can’t use it while doing that. Similar deal.

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The iMac are the perfect example though. The horror of putting a DVI/HDMI port on that thing seemed so horrendous that they'd rather let the whole thing go to waste. Reading OP it seems like this has been corrected? But generation of generation of devices didn't have any sensible reason to exist. Apple is also the king of integrated batteries. First with phones, then with laptops. I'm still baffled they got away with…

This would require additional hardware in every iMac sold. Many people (I suspect the vast majority) would not reuse the iMacs as displays. Would the total amount of extra hardware inside discarded iMacs (those not used as displays) be less than the amount of hardware saved by reuse of the others?

Definitely.

Would it affect apples bottom line if they couldn't prevent people from reusing their displays? You bet.

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Logitech makes mice that worked plugged in and not, and they are durable too because they use a custom plastic piece around the USB connector to ensure a snug fit: https://www.logitechg.com/en-ca/products/gaming-mice/pro-x-s...

I converted a Logitech mx2 mouse from micro-usb to usb-c. When doing so I confirmed and am 100% certain that the data lines of usb are not connected on this mouse (only ground and 5V are connected for charging). The traces to the micro-usb connector do not exist. The mouse only works by bluetooth or a Logitech 2.4Ghz dongle. Yet, when I read forums as I was troubleshooting something, I found multiple posts where some…

Whoa, neat. That makes sense from a product engineering/support angle - less work. The cable is just for charging and nothing else. I think that Windows doesn't really support the auto-pairing via USB cable that Apple does anyhow with its mice and keyboards.

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I love in Apple product announcements when they show people doing tasks that not only don't require recent hardware, but in fact could have been done without much trouble 20 or 30 years ago. Specifically talking about the ice cream spreadsheet that I suppose was there to show off how small businesses can use the new iMac. I'm sure it's a fine machine, but it does to me highlight the upgrade treadmill.

> iMac with M4 features the world’s fastest CPU core, making multitasking across apps like Safari and Excel lightning fast. This stuck out for me too, plus the examples of using Siri on the desktop. I reckon that invoking Siri to say, "Send Gema a text" and then having to proofread and approve the message is more effort than just sending Gema a text. Same for typing out "turn on do not disturb". You could imagine the…

Siri is hot garbage, but having apps open and close near instantaneously is a productivity boost. Which was also helped by SSD, but I would say the next material change since SSD I have experienced is M processors.

Amortize the time and “focus” savings over years of using the machine, and even a couple thousand extra dollars is worth it.

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The moment it runs out of power isn't when you're you're taking a break, but while you're using it. You may change what you're doing and go take a break. But you also may be in the middle of a presentation.

Sounds like it’s not for you. And that’s ok. I’m a long time MM user and have one at every computer I use (work and multiple personal). My first one was one with the AA batteries. Never had a problem with this. If you have a car, you have to fill it up with gas (or charge the battery) too and you can’t use it while doing that. Similar deal.

Thing is, their is literally the only mouse on the market that has this weird limitation - and there's no obvious good reason for it.

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> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

I send all my old stuff for recycling now and get a gift card in return. They just did this for my ancient iPad that won’t even run the latest iPadOS. I go on a site, pop in the serial number, and they ship me a box for free with a return label. I basically got $45 for an incredibly slow brick, so I’d say that’s pretty good incentive for their recycling program. Sure, you could install Linux and upcycle it, but how m…

Not in the UK; my iPad was unreliable from the off, eventually it was crashing 4 minutes after starting it. Trying to trade it in just got a message along the lines of "It can still have a good second life, go find a responsible recycler and give it to them. Have a Nice Day!".

Unlikely to ever buy an Apple product again.

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> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

It's not that they actively do bad things, it's that they only dedicate real resources in the direction of self-interest. Tim Cook likes to point to their solar investments and accessibility as examples of "doing good" when in reality the former is a good long term financial bet and the latter is generally under-resourced (or "cheap" to them). They'd use M.2 SSDs in their Macs instead of soldering flash chips to the…

You can tell they're full of shit because they can't stop tooting the green horn. It's self evident.

If they made their devices repairable, easily resellable, etc. then they wouldn't have to greenwash.

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Logitech makes mice that worked plugged in and not, and they are durable too because they use a custom plastic piece around the USB connector to ensure a snug fit: https://www.logitechg.com/en-ca/products/gaming-mice/pro-x-s...

Logitech mice don't use the top surface of the mouse as a multi-touch trackpad, so it doesn't matter to Logitech if the top surface of the mouse is uninterrupted by a charging port or not.

The charging port on Logitech mice is not on top surface. It's on the (slanted) front bottom surface. The top surface is fully devoted to controls.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Right now, the Apple computer lineup is totally out of alignment for me. The iMac is too small and the laptops are too big. I'd like a minimum 27" display for the iMac, maybe 31". For a laptop, give me something more portable, like the old 2 pound, 12" MacBook.

I miss the old small MacBook Air https://support.apple.com/en-ca/112441 But it would have been nice to get a device more like the mini Sony Vaio device of old with tons of ports, so you have a mini workstation to add a large display and inputs
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