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Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Let’s zoom out from the present election and remember how Bezos took over…

The first thing he said was “The paper’s duty will remain to its readers and not to the private interests of its owners.”

We, the readers, should require an apology from Bezos for breaking his promise to keep this separate from his other concerns.

Until that happens, one must assume that WaPo is permanently compromised in the favor of Bezos’s interests.

It’s not about Kamala, it’s about literally everything.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Newspapers publish opinions for the same reason that they publish comic strips: people want to read them. Readers seek them out. Newspapers are a business and have to give their customers what they want. The problematic aspect here is that the current business owner, Jeff Bezos, has a conflict of interest. Bezos is making a bad business decision for The Washington Post, sacrificing it and losing readers for the sake…

> Newspapers are a business and have to give their customers what they want. If this is all we expect of journalism in a Democracy, then the current state of the "business" of "news" in the US should be satisfactory to all.

> If this is all we expect of journalism in a Democracy

Straw man. I didn't say that.

It's not a maximum, but it is a minimum. Newspapers require money to operate, and they're competing for attention in a capitalist economy. No attention. no money, no newspaper. In a democracy, you can't force-feed newspapers to the population. They voluntarily choose to read or not read.

The "good news" is that many people in a democracy are interested in the hard truth. Nonetheless, it helps to package that along with softer marketing and entertainment.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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So we have reached the intimidation phase of this election, where businesses owners fear repercussions from Trump (or standing up against him) and his entourage for not supporting him. Reminds me of a certain time in history.

It's fascinating to compare other countries on the brink of authoritarianism with our own. In other countries it happens because of bread lines and complete dysfunction here it happens despite a country out of war and an economy that's humming along at a brisk pace.

It's the equivalent of playing chicken with a train because you're bored.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not aware that the government has forbidden any news outlet from endorsing Kamala Harris. It would be weird if they did.

I'm not aware of any either, just trying to understand the point you're making with your comment.

I was referring to the context of the comment to which I was replying, and asking a rhetorical question regarding the relationship between the free speech rights of the press and the implication that the press should be prevented from expressing editorial opinions.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not aware of any either, just trying to understand the point you're making with your comment.

I was referring to the context of the comment to which I was replying, and asking a rhetorical question regarding the relationship between the free speech rights of the press and the implication that the press should be prevented from expressing editorial opinions.

The paper is self-censoring. My confusion is around how the free speech rights of the press are being infringed. As I understand it, the paper willingly gave up its own rights. The point I was trying to make (poorly) is that this seems like less of an issue than, for instance, being compelled by a third party.

Edit: lots of changes to try and clarify my point

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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The Venn diagram of those who'd be influenced by a WaPo endorsement and committed Kamala Harris voters is a perfect intersection. For 50 years, WaPo has endorsed the democratic candidate [1] for president. No mystery here. It's a pointless endorsement. [1] https://noahveltman.com/endorsements/

The endorsement lets them write why they support the candidate. Laying out the reasons is what could be convincing, and is what's also being blocked here.

I think the intuition of the parent comment is right, but you also make a fair point[1]. I just wonder if you genuinely believe that any prospective Trump voter could be convinced by any argument to vote for Harris at this point. I mean after all the things that have already been written and said by so many, even by Trump himself, and have failed to convince ~47% of Americans that he's unfit to be the president.

Honestly, I look at the billions of dollars being poured into political ads, and I can't help but think that it's all a tremendous waste because it's hard to imagine that there's anybody left who didn't already form a strong opinion about Trump at some point over the past ten years.

[1] Like even assuming that prospective Trump voters don't read this newspaper, an especially novel or powerful argument could get picked up and spread by other outlets that do reach prospective Trump voters.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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> Couldn't a simple answer here be that he felt Kamala is unqualified and terrible and as a newspaper with a lot of readership and influence, he decided against endorsing her? Sure, but why should the personal opinion of the owner of the newspaper prevail over the opinion of the editorial staff?

They can make their own newspaper, or go on X or something, if they want to make their opinions known. He's not saying they can't voice their opinions, he's saying they can't use HIS platform to do it.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really this is a lesson in why the corporate news model is doomed to fail. Upping my contributions to serious investigative journalist organizations like ProPublica

I disagree. This is the exception rather than the rule. The more corporate, the more likely to give the people what they want.

Isn't that contrary to the purpose of news organizations? They should give the people what they need to know, not what they want.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Globe and Mail is a Canadian paper. Here is its history of endorsements since 1984: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/federal-electi... There is an entire Wikipedia page devoted only to endorsements in the 2024 United Kingdom general election: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorsements_in_the_2024_Uni...

Yeah, it does seem big in anglo-saxon countries. (I already posted that Wikipedia page, btw.)

I have an eight year old so there’s a big gap between actually starting a comment and posting it. That’s a pretty weak thing to criticize me for.

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post #296

Newspapers publish opinions for the same reason that they publish comic strips: people want to read them. Readers seek them out. Newspapers are a business and have to give their customers what they want. The problematic aspect here is that the current business owner, Jeff Bezos, has a conflict of interest. Bezos is making a bad business decision for The Washington Post, sacrificing it and losing readers for the sake…

I just hope this will finally put to bed any ridiculous mentions of "liberal media bias", or that the tech sector has some liberal bias.

Ridiculous is thinking there is no legacy liberal media bias. Take the top 100 political articles from WaPo and the NYT from this year and tell me how many are anti Republican. I’m guessing nearly all of them.
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