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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by rocqua »

barbazoo wrote: post #354
einszwei wrote: post #196

From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move, but I can't help but wonder about its long-term consequences. Although it was aimed at harming Israel's adversaries, third-party countries may now hesitate to involve Israel in their supply chains. There's also the risk that other major producers could replicate this tactic, potentially leading to further escalation in the region or be…

> From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move From The Guardian [1]: > Eight killed and 2,750 wounded Was that a clever move if you're killing "only" 8 potential adversaries? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/17/middle-ea...

If this were coordinated with a ground attack on Hezbollah, it would be a great way to disrupt any defense right before it needs to offer resistance.

I'm surprised they used it out of such a concept. It is almost heartening, because it suggests no such attack is currently anticipated by Israel.

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Post by nicbou »

tptacek wrote: post #171
harimau777 wrote: post #167

This seems like it would have the potential for a lot of collateral damage due to the possibility that modified pagers might enter general distribution. That is to say, how do they insure that a given shipment of pagers are only going to Hezbollah as opposed to some of them going to people like aid workers?

Who uses pagers? Aid workers carry phones. The pagers are deliberate opsec move for Hezbollah.

Nurses and medical staff, at least in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/15/1219737658/why-do-doctors-sti...

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Post by hanshenning »

harimau777 wrote: post #167

This seems like it would have the potential for a lot of collateral damage due to the possibility that modified pagers might enter general distribution. That is to say, how do they insure that a given shipment of pagers are only going to Hezbollah as opposed to some of them going to people like aid workers?

These pagers were used by Hizbullah because, unlike mobile phones, they cannot be tracked. The people who had them were certainly not random aid workers, but people in the Hizbullah chain of command. This is also indicated by the statements of Hizbullah itself (which are themself to be questioned and not taken at face value), according to which so far one non-combatant was reported killed and no other non-combatant were reported injured out of a total of 4,000 exploded explosive devices. The CCTV footage also shows that even in a crowded supermarket, no one was injured apart from the Hizbullah member with the pager.

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Post by ajb »

Tangentially related - Hezbollah used pagers because they could not trust mobiles. One reason is that mobile basebands are locked down: if they weren't, it's quite possible that by now someone would have implemented a baseband firmware which preserves opsec, that could be used on (rooted) phones . That is probably one of the reasons why governments are hostile to modifiable radio firmware.

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Post by csmpltn »

sixQuarks wrote: post #566
Hermandw wrote: post #520

Amir Tsarfati on Telegram: The updated numbers: 4000 wounded of which 400 in critical conditions Al Jazeera from a Lebanese security source: The pagers were brought to Lebanon 5 months ago. They were boobytrapped in advance. Each device contained an explosive weighing no more than 20 grams.

Isn’t this a war crime?

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VerminOctopus1 wrote: post #259
harimau777 wrote: post #167

This seems like it would have the potential for a lot of collateral damage due to the possibility that modified pagers might enter general distribution. That is to say, how do they insure that a given shipment of pagers are only going to Hezbollah as opposed to some of them going to people like aid workers?

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