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Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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Indeed, the slow pace of technical advancement has hobbled GA. Much of it is down to regulation, but the industry has nearly sealed a fate of extinction by ignoring the leaded-gas problem for decades. The writing has been on the wall since the '70s, but only now do we have a couple of airplane engines capable of running on true automotive gas (gasohol).

Then we have the endless attacks on GA airports, spearheaded by corrupt local politicians and the developers who own them. The big money and small-time land speculators (in the form of fake NIMBYs) team up to lobby against and destroy small airports everywhere. While most people will say they support their local airport (or are at least neutral toward it), they are not the ones who take a day off work to vote in their local kangaroo-council election. The special interests and the developers DO.

The FAA has ominously abandoned its duty as steward of our aviation infrastructure in some cases, notably Santa Monica, CA. In an illegal, back-room deal whose terms have never been uncovered, lame-duck FAA administrator Michael Huerta sold out the entire aviation community and ceded federal land to a historically corrupt Santa Monica city council and allowed the destruction of a public airport... unless the public can be persuaded to defend it in the next few years.

There is no point to aviation advancements when there's no place to fly. We all love to laugh at how corrupt other countries are; but people: We're there. All of these "freedoms" Americans hang their hats on are being stolen by private interests forever. You will never see another general-aviation airport built. When they're destroyed, part of our national transportation infrastructure is gone forever. And what these innovators are trying to do becomes moot.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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Don't confuse gallons per hour with gallons per mile.

I think I did not. https://i.imgur.com/4Ik69ki.png

True. Next, don't forget that airplanes cover about 3x the distance as cars per hour. So, per mile they are on par with bad cars, and about 2x normal cars.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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A Diamond DA40 does around 28 miles per gallon ( The environmental impact is not the main issue here.

> you can go in a straight line rather than following roads Yep. You also need another type of transportation to bring you to the airport and back. Given the price tag I doubt the target customer would take the bus. > But it's not outrageously more so More than too much is way too much . > in aggregate much less than what cars consume now The aggregate value is totally beside the point since one could always make up…

Then let's remove air conditioners and windshield wipers from cars. People will drive less. Mission accomplished!

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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> Even if you had to make the auto trip 400 km because roads aren't as direct, this comes to 51 kg CO2. What if there's a sogging great mountain range in the middle and I literally do need to drive 2-3x as far, because (rail) tunnels take something between 2 and 3 decades to build and won't be finished before 2040, if any are even planned to begin with?

You can always cherrypick examples that favour planes. In fact, to take it to the extreme, you can just put bodies of water in between and that might become practically the only choice as distances increase (e.g. there are no ferry service between Honolulu and Kona in Hawaii), and I'd agree with you in some cases planes are the most reasonable way to go between places. That said, looking at the website for the main p…

Even a million additional GA airplanes used for leisure trips won't ruin the environment as much as cryprocurrency and AI does, so I'm not sure why HN of all places suddenly discovers their concern for environmental sustainability.

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> A crew member of a train has a very demanding job. The ratio of staff on a train to the count of passengers is much lower than on a bus or in a plane. Even less for freight. > The shifts are highly irregular and you may have to spend the night far from home. In this regard it's even worse than flying. This assume either long distance trains or slow trains. This can be solved Why would have shift to be irregular. Tr…

> I recommend to come to Europe I am European and on my side of the continent railways have been winding down for years now - partly due to the reasons I mentioned. > for a trip in the TGV. Paris to Marseille (650 km) in 3 hours from city center to city center. That's great, but wasn't it in France where the government made a (botched) attempt at making flying less attractive by increasing its cost?

> That's great, but wasn't it in France where the government made a (botched) attempt at making flying less attractive by increasing its cost?

More governments should follow.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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Plane fuel does not have the same taxes than the fuel you use on your car. Should car and plane fuel have the same tax level if used as personal transport?

Depends whether you think it’s reasonable for fuel tax to also price in road maintenance and local pollution along the route. Airplanes don’t make potholes in the sky, and the cruising portions of their routes don’t expose anyone to any appreciable concentration of particulate, NOx, etc emissions from planes.

Taxes on fuel are a way to deincentivize the use of private cars, at least in my country with the fuel tax you can't pay all the infrastructure cars use.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#609

Great ideas - all destined to wither and die on the vine of certification and regulatory approval. A certified Dynon autopilot for a Cessna 172 starts at $26k just for the components - you expect a similar amount for installation and then ongoing maintenance, calibration, and servicing. Designing and building the technology is the easy part - pushing that technology through testing and certification is the very hard…

> Then a doped up former major league pitcher decides to hop in your plane and fly it into the ocean and everything you have done is called into question and you end up buried in lawsuits. Here's what I don't understand. If the same meathead pitcher gets in his Ferrari and drives it into a tree, nobody questions the car company or buries them in lawsuits. Driver crashes car, it's their fault. So wouldn't it stand to…

What you're talking about is already a thing. Experimental category is aviation without much of the red tape. You can fly pretty much anything that passes 50 hours of flight testing, then modify it at will just like your car. Expect this aircraft to offered as Experimental/Amateur-Built, because they have shown no plans for certification.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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but you get to "beat traffic"! lol

Joking aside, that's an interesting point actually, since it would probably be a common argument for this this type of transportation. However I doubt it would work for the masses due to Jevon's Paradox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

also the fact that an airport is usually not where you live or work, and in the U.S. that means you're still adding to traffic pre/post flight with an additional need for a car on both ends of the trip.
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