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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Thank you Joe, you are a true patriot and your legacy will be as a great President.

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That is a counterfactual that is pretty hard to prove. The US is a very large machine and I find it hard to believe that two wars were enabled by the presidents weak will alone.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#602

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Like IQ tests will not measure mental sanity and lucidity, age does not measure mental proficiency.

Then why a minimum age of 35? It’s a reasonable suggestion

The thinking at the time was: how can someone under the age of 35 ever have enough accomplishments to be elected president? They believed that would only happen if they were the child of a famous person or former president.

The Constitution was largely written as a departure from the monarchical British system. By not allowing presidential candidates younger than 35, this would prevent hereditary transmission of the presidency. Past 35, a candidate is more likely to stand on their own merits rather than their family or connections.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/why-does-a-presidential-...

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#603

Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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As much as it pains me to suggest a Cheney, Liz Cheney would be another strong contender.

Or Adam Kinzinger.

A few others who'd voted for impeachment (House) or conviction (Senate).

Those are:

House (10): John Katko (R-NY), Jamie Herrera Beutler (R-WA), Adam Kinziger (R-IL), Dan Newhouse (R-WA), David Valadao (R-CA), Peter Meijer (R-MI), Tome Rice (R-SC), Fred Upton (R-MI), Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH), Liz Cheney (R-WY).

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/14/956621191/these-are-the-10-re...>

Senate (7): Richard Burr (R-NC), Bill Cassidy (R-LA), Susan Collins (R-ME), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Mitt Romney (R-UT), Ben Sasse (R-NE), Pat Toomey (R-PA).

https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-up...>

In terms of public awareness, I'd roughly rank Romney and Cheney the overall leaders (previous GOP Presidential candidate, and daughter of a previous GOP VP), then perhaps Collins, Murkowski, Burr, Sasse, and trailing those Kinziger, though that's my own seat-of-the pants / /dev/ass estimate.

As mixed-party tickets, any of those named, possibly excepting Sasse, might be draws, though Cheney or Romney would lead my own picks. Both reluctant but pragmatic.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#605

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Like IQ tests will not measure mental sanity and lucidity, age does not measure mental proficiency.

Then why a minimum age of 35? It’s a reasonable suggestion

Well... why indeed? If you don't feel up to justifying it you should support removing arbitrary limits.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#606

All of this discussion. Most people don't understand, were not voting for Biden, were voting against Trump. The DNC could nominate a floating turd in a bowl, and we'd still vote Democrat, because it's not a vote for Trump.

To the best interpretation of the above post, the poster seems to forget that those who take care of winning an election need to focus on the undecided voters in the middle.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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i’ve been seeing this comment float around today, and assuming you aren’t a russian troll or bot account, here’s why it’s flawed: there’s no _coup_ (not coop) because primary processes are not part of the constitution. candidates can step down (as biden did for the good of the country, and LBJ had done before him). there was no real choice to not pick biden, either, as the incumbent. the party will now have an open n…

> keep in mind that most americans did not want biden OR trump

I think the point is that at least people voted to make Biden their candidate.

Now those votes mean nothing and someone else will pick their candidate for them instead.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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While not as much skin, we sadly have more skin in this game as I'd wish The election of the next President will have a large effect on the security of Europe with respect to both Russia and Israel

In what world is Israel relevant to the security of Europe?

This one?

It seems pretty clear to me that Netanyahu is trying to stir up a wider war in the Middle East. If he's successful that will be terrible for the security of all the surrounding regions, Europe included.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#609

Given the recent claims that the President was healthy and fit for office despite evidence to the contrary and now this admission, how can anyone trust the party?

Maybe he's just facing the reality of polling data and not concealing a health problem?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#610

Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Because it's in the constitution.
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