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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets.

I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

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What? Wikileaks had a huge drop of shit about Russia they were going to publish.

Assange was told he would be falling out a window if he published it. Then he buried it.

He is only about publishing leaks about western countries that don’t directly tell him they will murder him.

That isn’t a free society.

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I'd encourage people to read this excellent piece in the London Review of Books by someone who was contracted to ghostwrite Assange's autobiography, and who initially felt very sympathetic towards the aims of Assange and Wikileaks: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v36/n05/andrew-o-hagan/ghost... I found it very insightful and nuanced when it comes to Assange and his motivations, presenting him as neither hero nor vill…

that is indeed an excellent read, thank you for sharing it

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> JULIAN ASSANGE IS FREE No, he is not. Nobody can go through what he has been forced to suffer in all those years without lasting consequences that can't be undone: years of his life have been taken away, his health has been damaged, his family has been hit as well. He may be free to roam around, but he's not the same person anymore. I don't see any happy ending here, especially if there are no consequences for the…

Yeah, 5 years in a 2x3m cell with total social isolation? People almost went mad locking down 2 months during covid an they had internet. I doubt he'll ever be the same, or even a functioning person again.

John McCain spent a little over 5 years being tortured in solitary confinement in a Vietnamese POW camp and later became Arizona senator. Exceptional people are capable of a lot, I'm sure Assange hasn't lost his spirit yet.

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Lets not forget this dude colluded with Russian intelligence to interfere with 2016 US elections. He's not freedom fighter he's an assets to some intelligence service.

Interfered by publishing real, truthful documents. Right.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clinton is not democracy. Anti-Clinton is not anti democracy. Being anti the US government is not anti democratic. And no, letting USA or any other nation for that matter commit war crimes quietly does not support democracy.

When Russia enables it, amplifies it, builds their disinformation and propaganda machine around those facts and there’s no counter weight it gets into the realm of anti-democratic adjacent. There’s nothing simple when it comes to international politics. But foreign meddling by an adversary is a pretty bright line.

Foreign meddling in what? Foreign meddling in the Clinton campaign’s lies and obfuscations?

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My anedoctical experience is that Assange detractors are mostly restricted to US and some countries that are its closer allies. Here in Brazil I would find hard finding someone with negative views about him. Between informed people that knows about him, he is a hero that exposed the truth and an example of US hipocrisy concerning free press and human rights.

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if I were him I would take the first flight to Moscow, can't trust the Australian government, they're a US vassal state, sabotaging their own economy and relationship with China to please the US. Safer to go an enemy state of the US in this case. There's a reason Snowden's still alive while all those Boeing and other whistleblowers are either dead or jailed.

If you’re going to air conspiracy theories on hn, much better to elaborate the evidence for them beyond “there’s a reason”!
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