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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by refurb »

lightedman wrote: post #537
beaeglebeachh wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'without a DEA licensed rx and dea licensing' Rx under DEA scrutiny is nothing like rec or laughable state controlled medical 'recommendations'. You pull that shit as a provider on controlled scripts and your charts get audited, your DEA license gets pulled.

"'without a DEA licensed rx and dea licensing'" I know of several grocery stores without pharmacies or a local Rx license selling 1% hydrocortisone/hydrocortisone acetate - Schedule 4, 3, AND 2, simultaneously.

1% hydrocortisone, at least in the US, is not a controlled drug not do you need a pharmacy license to sell it.

No different than buying Tylenol at a gas station.

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Post by unethical_ban »

1024core wrote: post #546

Democrats will dangle the possibility of marijuana legalization to entice voters to turn out for the election. But I doubt legalization will actually happen; I'd be delighted to be proven wrong. I'm just too jaded, I guess.

Yes, I think you are too jaded. It's fine to be wary, but wrong to think these two groups are the same. Don't forget that our Senate is broken, so no legislation passes without an inordinate amount of rural, conservatives states backing it.

So legalization may still be a political hot button, but give it time. One party supports it, one party opposes it. Dan Patrick, Lt. Gov. of Texas, is going to push the state to ban hemp-based Delta 8 products in the next session.

One party is regressive, one party is receptive and secular.

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Post by somenameforme »

beaeglebeachh wrote: post #290
denimnerd42 wrote: post #260

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sure they do. for example it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana and a firearm. the purchase of said MJ would be pretty good evidence that could lead to other warrants. That's the Hunter Biden gun charge.

It's oddly not. Only to be a user or addict with a firearm. IIRC if you just like the way weed looks in your hand that doesn't make you a user, and there's plenty of reasonable doubt you're guarding it for grandma or whoever. Of course people are still being convicted of weed and firearm, but it gets recorded as gun law violation and nobody cares, cuz left hates guns and right hates weed, so they'll never repeal it.

What you're saying is how people generally think the law works, but it's not how it works in practice. This is easily illustrated with possession of drug paraphernalia charges. There's two types of possession, actual and constructive - but both face the exact same charge. Constructive just means something like 'could be reasonably accessed.'

So imagine you're in a car, get pulled over, it smells of weed so the cop executes a search, and he finds a pipe in the glove compartment. You're getting arrested for PDP there 100%. Even if it genuinely wasn't yours, you stand very little chance of acquittal. Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean 'is there some other viable explanation' because there literally always is. It means is it reasonably likely that one of these other explanations is what really happened.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

babyshake wrote: post #532
qwerty456127 wrote: post #530

Great news. A very sound move. Indeed, marijuana is much less dangerous of a drug yet considerably harmful in cases of chronic use in unreasonably high doses therefore should be controlled some way. What seems problematic nowadays is teenagers smoking too much. Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. To me it seems it should be as available and legal as alcohol and cigarettes are, no less, no more.…

"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

or texting or otherwise looking at their phone while driving ...

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Post by insane_dreamer »

joshmarinacci wrote: post #326
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #258

There you have it, the administrator themselves saying they believe in myths about cannabis: It’s a gateway drug; while simultaneously ignoring that the drug killing people, fent has a perfectly causal gateway drug in vicodin/percs > Jack Riley, a former deputy administrator of the DEA, said he had concerns about the proposed change because he thinks marijuana remains a possible “gateway drug,” one that may lead to t…

It is a gateway drug. When marijuana is illegal you have to get it from drug dealers, who have an incentive to upsell you to harder stuff. Make it legal and that gateway goes away.

In that case it ceases to become a gateway drug once legal.

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Post by seattle_spring »

aidenn0 wrote: post #186
morley wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's moving to schedule III, though the new company it's in really highlights how it should be descheduled instead: > It moves pot to Schedule III, alongside ketamine and some anabolic steroids Hopefully the first step but not the last.

So now it is de-jure easier to get than ADHD meds instead of just de-facto easier.

Seems reasonable, considering the abuse potential is worse with things like Adderall than cannabis.

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Post by schoen »

dexwiz wrote: post #216
pests wrote: post #91

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Every dispo in my area (Metro Detroit) has concrete pillars surrounding the building, usually every two feet or so. One of the first to open a few years back got hit early and everyone seems to have learned the lesson.

Those short pillars are called bollards.

Well-known to expert GeoGuessr players as a convenient way to quickly tell what country you're in on a random rural road, as different countries use mysteriously consistent different bollard styles even when their road surfaces are otherwise almost identical.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bollard+meta

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Post by ip26 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #258

There you have it, the administrator themselves saying they believe in myths about cannabis: It’s a gateway drug; while simultaneously ignoring that the drug killing people, fent has a perfectly causal gateway drug in vicodin/percs > Jack Riley, a former deputy administrator of the DEA, said he had concerns about the proposed change because he thinks marijuana remains a possible “gateway drug,” one that may lead to t…

Or, he's a savvy guy talking to the people who do still believe it's a gateway drug, and deftly explaining to them why this is good without trying to tell them they are wrong.
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