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Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC

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My prediction is that Bitcoin will become fully institutionalized within twenty years, to the point that the “Bitcoin” held by investors are entirely disconnected from the theoretical blockchain. A similar thing happened with stocks. Not so long ago they used to be physical pieces of paper. You could trade shares peer-to-peer and even anonymously by handing over the share certificate to someone in person. For dividen…

The possibility of change exists, but one of the hardest promises Bitcoin makes is that you can't change the rules mid-game like what happened with stocks. That is one of the most attractive things about this asset class - if the US regulators want to change how a crypto is traded ... tough biscuits. They have to convince the market participants, globally, to trade the new way. The bar might be orders of magnitude hi…

Aren't the vast majority of market participants already operating outside the blockchain, relying on exchanges and sometimes on so-called "L2" networks like Lightning? I think the majority of Bitcoin and Ethereum proponents are already talking about them as "digital gold" instead of digital currency. The mining pools have also blocked any attempt to make the Bitcoin blockchain more efficient at transactions (by keeping the block size small), so on-chain trading is doomed to remain an extremely low-rate event for the foreseeable future. Is it still at 7-10 transactions/second globally?

So overall it seems quite easy to force the matter and implement KYC and AML for msot legal Bitcoin transactions.

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The possibility of change exists, but one of the hardest promises Bitcoin makes is that you can't change the rules mid-game like what happened with stocks. That is one of the most attractive things about this asset class - if the US regulators want to change how a crypto is traded ... tough biscuits. They have to convince the market participants, globally, to trade the new way. The bar might be orders of magnitude hi…

this assumes USD hegemony is a distant memory. does bitcoin have the largest weapons cache and standing military in the history of humanity? best of luck to your imagined future; but it reads very naive to me.

So what, it's "play by our rules or get bombed" ?

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My prediction is that Bitcoin will become fully institutionalized within twenty years, to the point that the “Bitcoin” held by investors are entirely disconnected from the theoretical blockchain. A similar thing happened with stocks. Not so long ago they used to be physical pieces of paper. You could trade shares peer-to-peer and even anonymously by handing over the share certificate to someone in person. For dividen…

The possibility of change exists, but one of the hardest promises Bitcoin makes is that you can't change the rules mid-game like what happened with stocks. That is one of the most attractive things about this asset class - if the US regulators want to change how a crypto is traded ... tough biscuits. They have to convince the market participants, globally, to trade the new way. The bar might be orders of magnitude hi…

> if the US regulators want to change how a crypto is traded ... tough biscuits

They can happily regulate on and off ramps, and enforce traceability etc for anything that touches the 'real' economy though, should they wish.

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The possibility of change exists, but one of the hardest promises Bitcoin makes is that you can't change the rules mid-game like what happened with stocks. That is one of the most attractive things about this asset class - if the US regulators want to change how a crypto is traded ... tough biscuits. They have to convince the market participants, globally, to trade the new way. The bar might be orders of magnitude hi…

> but one of the hardest promises Bitcoin makes is that you can't change the rules mid-game Am I misremembering or did the other blockchain do exactly that in response to the DAO hack?

Compare that to the ease of rolling back a transaction in USD. I think we'll find the cost was orders of magnitude higher.

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So bitcoin became something like money and stocks, just a number in a SQL database? And we can now finally make bitcoins out of thin air? How long before the amount of bitcoins traded by hedge funds will be larger than the amount of bitcoins that exist in the actual bitcoin network?

No there is a hard limit of 21m Bitcoins. You can't just "print more".

Yes it's possible to trade "paper bitcoins" but if you don't own the underlying asset you are always at risk of being found out and not being able to cover the amount.

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this assumes USD hegemony is a distant memory. does bitcoin have the largest weapons cache and standing military in the history of humanity? best of luck to your imagined future; but it reads very naive to me.

So what, it's "play by our rules or get bombed" ?

It is. It always was.

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> but one of the hardest promises Bitcoin makes is that you can't change the rules mid-game Am I misremembering or did the other blockchain do exactly that in response to the DAO hack?

Compare that to the ease of rolling back a transaction in USD. I think we'll find the cost was orders of magnitude higher.

That doesn’t sound like a “hard promise”

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With quantum computing growing rapidly, aren't all blockchains in danger of being decrypted and drained in the future?

Quantum computers still have a few hurdles to overcome... https://spectrum.ieee.org/quantum-computing-skeptics https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/28/1048355/quantum-...

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Most of then operate in Europe already. I am personally holding some already (3 for an extra risk split). Most of these old ones seem to be listed in Germany and Paris.

"3 for an extra risk split" I guess in the end they are all fully dependent on Coinbase.

Buying is pretty irrelevant, the Custodians are relevant. One if them lists BitGo as their custodian. So nop, doesn't look like it.
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