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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by TerrifiedMouse »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

> The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing.

Is this progress though? They are just widening the data set that the LLM processes. They haven't fixed any of the outstanding problems - hallucinations remain unsolved.

Feels like putting lipstick on a pig.

> but in daily world, they work so darn well for so many use cases!

I guess I'm just one of those people who does not like non-reliable tools. I rather a tool be "dumb" (i.e. limited) but reliable than "smart" (i.e. flexible in what it can handle) but (silently!) screws up all the time.

It's what I always liked about computers. They compensate for my failings as an error prone flesh bag. My iPhone won't forget my appointments like I do.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by Method-X »

warent wrote: post #540

The number of comments here of people fearing there is a ghost in the shell is shocking. Are we really this emotional and irrational? Folks, let's all take a moment to remember that AI is nowhere near conscious. It's an illusion based in patterns that mimic humans.

AI doesn't have to be conscious to cause massive job displacement. It has to be artificially intelligent, not artificially conscious. Intelligence and consciousness are not the same.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by layer8 »

mrits wrote: post #327
layer8 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The most extreme I can think of is when I want to find when a show comes out and I have to read 10 paragraphs from 5 different sites to realize no one knows. I found that you can be pretty sure no one knows if it’s not already right on the results page. And if the displayed quote for a link on the results page is something like “wondering when show X is coming out?”, then it’s also a safe bet that clicking that lin…

I don't disagree but having to have a learning phase for patterns sounds a bit like people clinging to an old way of things.

It’s better to have a pattern than having no pattern with ChatGPT to tell when it’s hallucinating or not.

I wish MLs were more useful than search engines, but they have still a long way to go to replace them (if they ever do).

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by mhss »

whimsicalism wrote: post #594
mhss wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

re: UBI. I don't think they'll let us starve, but that's a very low bar. If we all become fungible and invaluable they can just feed us Soylent green.

Who is they?

People that has enough money & wealth to employ others, control corporations who employ thousands and influence the government meaningfully (lobbying). Today, they basically control who is employed and who isn't by deciding how much to invest and in what. No, you cannot just choose to employ yourself in all circumstances. I'm all for being self-sufficient but not everyone can start a company (time and capital intensive, and very risky without a safety net).

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by fragmede »

TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #601
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

> The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. Is this progress though? They are just widening the data set that the LLM processes. They haven't fixed any of the outstanding problems - hallucinations remain unsolved. Feels like putting lipstick on a pig. > but in daily world, they work so darn well for so many use cases! I guess I'm just one of those people who does not like non-reliable tools. I…

Car crashes haven't stopped happening, but it's undeniable that cars have progressed since the Model-T first came out over a hundred years ago.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by FrankyHollywood »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

Indeed it works darn well, my company uses a complex programming assignment during application. Only about 5% of computer science students applying manages to create a decent solution within a few hours. I was curious if GPT could solve it. I provided the assignment text without any extra information, and it came up with a very elegant solution.

You might not want to call this 'consciousness', but I was stunned by the deep understanding of the problem and the way it was able to come up with a truly good solution, this is way beyond 'statistically guessing'.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by whimsicalism »

idopmstuff wrote: post #244
suyash wrote: post #29

This announcement seem to have killed so many startups that were trying to do multi-modal on top of ChatGPT. The way it's progressing with solving use cases with images and voice, not too far when it might be the 'one app to rule them all'. I can already see "Alexa/Siri/Google Home" replacement, "Google Image Search" replacement, ed-tech startups that were solving problems with AI using by taking a photo are also doo…

It increasingly feels to me like building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice. I see two viable AI business models: 1. Domain-specific AI - Training an AI model on highly technical and specific topics that general-purpose AI models don't excel at. 2. Integration - If you're going to build on an existing AI model, don't focus on adding more capabilities. Instead, focus on integrating it into compani…

> 1. Domain-specific AI - Training an AI model on highly technical and specific topics that general-purpose AI models don't excel at.

You will be eaten if you do this imo.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by johnmoberg »

insanitybit wrote: post #223

I really want to have discussions about technical topics. I've talked to ChatGPT quite a lot about custom encoding algorithms, for example. The thing is, I want to do this while I play video games so ideally I'd say things to it. My concern is that when I say "FastPFOR" it'll get transcribed as "fast before" or something like that. Transcription really falls apart in highly technical conversations in my experience. I…

You can already do quite accurate transcription with domain-specific technical language by feeding "raw" transcriptions from Whisper to GPT and asking it to correct the transcript given the context, so that'll most likely work out for you.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by jgoodhcg »

TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #601
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

> The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. Is this progress though? They are just widening the data set that the LLM processes. They haven't fixed any of the outstanding problems - hallucinations remain unsolved. Feels like putting lipstick on a pig. > but in daily world, they work so darn well for so many use cases! I guess I'm just one of those people who does not like non-reliable tools. I…

There’s room in the world for a tool that has an error rate but also an astonishing ability to accelerate the work of a person.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by realce »

whimsicalism wrote: post #594
mhss wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

re: UBI. I don't think they'll let us starve, but that's a very low bar. If we all become fungible and invaluable they can just feed us Soylent green.

Who is they?

Whoever owns and control the bear, are you actually confused about that or is this just baiting?
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