Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

Post by epylar » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 1:16 AM UTC

throwawaylinux wrote: post #581

dragonwriter wrote: post #570

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> For the most recent presidential election maybe. Yes, that’s generally what “believe the election was stolen” without further qualification means; its not a reference to the total sum of people who believe at least one election in the history of the US was stolen. > For the previous one a majority of Democrats including high ranking Democrat politicians and officials were election deniers. No, they weren’t. https:/…

Yes they were a huge number of election deniers for the 2016 election and a vast amount of irresponsible rheotoric around it that was very dangerous to democracy. Don't try to gaslight on this one. A lot of uneducated morons and delusional conspiracy theorists thought "Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election", fueled by dangerous and irresponsible rhetoric from certain anti-democratic election denier politicia…

Post by pokepim » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 1:17 AM UTC

micromacrofoot wrote: post #304

withinboredom wrote: post #164

Maybe someone will scroll all the way down to this comment. Probably not. For half a decade, I have lived outside of the US, and I've watched as it has fallen to shit in slow motion. I make a decent chunk of income in USD and this terrifies me... but this. This move saddens me. There are only so many hours that congress has to make real decisions ... and this, this is what they spent their time on? Talking about how…

They're compounding problems, we have alarming increases in teenage depression rates (especially amongst girls), and there's some correlation with the rise of social media as well as other things like school shootings. I agree with you that there are more important things, but we do lots at once. Honestly if shooting up congresspeople, kindergartners, and kindergartners shooting teachers hasn't changed anything in re…

Post by HDThoreaun » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 1:21 AM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #257

chimeracoder wrote: post #239

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> In what way? Explain that, and let readers decide if it is horrific. The bill allows the Secretary of Commerce to unilaterally ban products associated with countries of their choosing, with a 20 year prison sentence for any US citizen who attempts to use a VPN to circumvent the access ban.

It’s also worth noting that the Secretary of Commerce is not an elected position.

Post by est » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 1:25 AM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #239

petilon wrote: post #222

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> This bill is absolutely horrific. In what way? Explain that, and let readers decide if it is horrific.

> In what way? Explain that, and let readers decide if it is horrific. The bill allows the Secretary of Commerce to unilaterally ban products associated with countries of their choosing, with a 20 year prison sentence for any US citizen who attempts to use a VPN to circumvent the access ban.

Post by est » Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 1:27 AM UTC

gretch wrote: post #7

humanistbot wrote: post #3

If the concern is privacy and security, which apply to all social media platforms, then why not pass actual privacy and security laws that would apply equally to all social media platforms, regardless of who currently owns it or may own it in the future?

That's not what the concern of the bill is and it's completely transparent. Just read the first 2 pages of the bill and you can see the concern is, in the words of the bill, a "foreign adversary" and their ability to "sabotage or subversion of the design, integrity, manufacturing, production, distribution, installation, operation, or maintenance of information and communications technology products and services in th…