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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by thedorkknight »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #299
extr wrote: post #265

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No. I'm a salaried employee. Marginal time/effort savings do not directly translate into more money for me. But the $20 charge hits my bank account today. Perhaps if I use it consistently enough and in smart enough ways I will be perceived to be a more valuable/productive employee, which might translate to a raise. But that's a lot of maybes. I'm sure it will get to that point eventually, but by then the value will b…

If you outperform your peers and get a raise just 6 months sooner that pays for itself.

The odds that this will be the difference all other variables held the same strike me as unlikely. I've used it a lot for programming in my personal time and get where he's coming from. It's fun and cool but didn't spike my effectiveness at programming enough vs. just googling things that I'd expect it to be noticable when reviews come around

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by giancarlostoro »

johtso wrote: post #401
m463 wrote: post #308

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This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

When I tack on subscriptions I review other ones I cannot justify since you only consume so many services at once right? Then I cancel accordingly.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by manmal »

kolinko wrote: post #466
johtso wrote: post #401

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I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

Sure, but with some things, the increase in productivity pays off the price easily - you end up earning more, or working way less. $20/mo for a subscription of NYT, or Netflix is not one of those things. But ChatGPT in many cases can save whole days of work over each month, so - especially when you're a freelancer, it will pay itself off.

For me, ChatGPT also has a psychological benefit. It makes me feel like there’s someone that I can fall back on when I‘m stuck. It might be wrong (often the bot is not super helpful), but this is not about rationality.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by optimalsolver »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #414
optimalsolver wrote: post #388

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That is not an API for ChatGPT.

Oh, I thought ChatGPT is based on Davinci, which is on their API page. Is ChatGPT not based on Davinci?

ChatGPT has been retrained with a method called Reinforcement Learning with Human Advice [0], effectively making it a very different model:

[0] https://openai.com/blog/deep-reinforcement-learning-from-hum...

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by nirvdrum »

lanza wrote: post #424
ezekg wrote: post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

People are so cheap it's ridiculous. If we ever get past people being unwilling to pay for software beyond rates of 1 cent per hour tech will blow up to 10x as big as it is right now.

Alternatively, people are tired of paying subscriptions for everything. And many SaaS actively mislead on price and employ dark patterns to make canceling difficult. It's often not worth the hassle.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by scubbo »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #292
dragonwriter wrote: post #278

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> And it's cheaper than $20/month, Since the $20/month is for priority access to new features and priority access including during high-load times, not API access (a separatr offering not yet available), I don't understand the cost comparison. What you are proposing does not substitute for any part of the $20/month offering over the basic free product.

He's a programmer. They re cheaper than scrooge. They'll write a tool themselves in 6 months rather than spend 10 dollars. Idk why but programmers are the cheapest people on earth in regards to programming tools. I bought Intellij idea for $400 like 12 years ago and got made fun of at work even though it made me substantially faster than eclipse.

Was IntelliJ Community Edition free at the time?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #394
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #304

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People are seriously in denial about how powerful this is. As you said this is just the beginning

What would you suggest people do, thinking about the 99% of devs who don't make FAANG salaries so that FIRE isn't an option?

I don't have answers about what to do but being in denial isn't going to help you. Most developers I know make 6 figures plus, even some JR developers, none of them for FAANG companies. If you make 6 figures you can generally save a lot. Most I know do not. They spend their money in nice things.

Either way, better to view this as a threat so you can jump on whatever comes next

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by aeonflux »

behnamoh wrote: post #380
extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

Does anyone know if this can be done in other macOS automation apps too? (like Keyboard Maestro, Hammerspoon, Raycast, Alfred, ...)

Of course. I use this in Hammerspoon. The API call is simply in Lua.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by aeonflux »

billythemaniam wrote: post #593
sillysaurusx wrote: post #445

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While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

I don't really see the issue. You are using a service called GhostWrite which uses ChatGPT under the hood. OpenAI/ChatGPT would be considered a sub-processor of GhostWrite. What am I missing?

How are they using ChatGPT - is there an API? Or is this simply abuse of TOS?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by jb_s »

gamegoblin wrote: post #37
jb1991 wrote: post #21

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There is no ChatGPT API.

ChatGPT is, for most use cases, a simple conversational wrapper around GPT3.5 which is available via API. You can make your own ChatGPT by giving the following prompt to GPT3.5: The following is a transcript between a helpful AI assistant and a human. The AI assistant can provide factual information (but only from before mid 2021, when its training data cuts off), ask clarifying questions, and engage in chit chat. Tr…

I've been trying to figure out how the ChatGPT UI manages to keep the conversation context when it's over the limits of what the model can ingest.

I even tried asking ChatGPT :D

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