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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by Nextgrid »

scarface74 wrote: post #599
Nextgrid wrote: post #582

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uBlock has full control over the browser's network access and can run code to determine the outcome of the request. 1Blocker/AdGuard/etc use two mechanisms: 1) declarative blocking - where you can specify rules to allow/deny requests matching a certain pattern. Those rules need to be declared in advance, you can't do matching at runtime using custom code. 2) they inject a bit of JS into the page to try and tamper wit…

Yes because there is no issue with “security” of having a third party extension intercepting all of your network request…

But the workaround of injecting scripts directly within the page doesn't solve the security problem either, while introducing its own problem of less effective ad blocking.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

azemetre wrote: post #372
onion2k wrote: post #347

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Developer wages would crash through the floor and all the way down to the centre of the Earth if ad blockers really took off without users also accepting micropayments or subscriptions for web services at the same time. Maybe we should be a little bit glad that the main thing keeping massive amounts of money in tech is accepted by users. The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that…

This is some massive hyperbole and really makes me consider if online advertising should be abolished or massively kneecapped. Maybe we should ask users for money because the alternative has become some kafkaesque hellscape where people think it's totally normal to have a dozen ad trackers when attempting to buy shoes. These trackers have an enormous costs and maybe their externalities should be taxed and regulated.…

Given the choice, your average person will pretty much _always_ choose the option that doesn't involve them handing over money, even if they have plenty of it.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by hedora »

pwpw wrote: post #578
hedora wrote: post #357

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I run pi hole in an x86 docker container on my NAS. No raspberry pi required, despite the name. The reports an dynamic modifications to rule sets are a big advantage of pi hole. Sure, you can do it with dnsmasq conf files and logs, but the web UI has a lot of niceties.

Mind providing more info on how you set that up?

I think it was just this image:

https://hub.docker.com/r/pihole/pihole/

I used synology's docker app. I had to enter the port numbers into their web GUI manually.

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

scubadude wrote: post #540
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #354

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Yup. I run a PiHole in the cloud so I can PiHole my phone without exposing my home network at all. EDIT: On my phone, I do use Firefox with uBlock Origin, but the PiHole blocks ads that aren't in the browser, or use an app's browser view.

Trustworthy DNS seems so critical to security, I erred on the side of PiHole on a pi at home, self cloud hosting my DNS scarred me a bit.

My PiHole in AWS requires me to VPN into it, so DNS requests are protected by the VPN. Neither AWS or anybody in the middle can interfere with it.

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Post by pwpw »

hedora wrote: post #603
pwpw wrote: post #578

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Mind providing more info on how you set that up?

I think it was just this image: https://hub.docker.com/r/pihole/pihole/ I used synology's docker app. I had to enter the port numbers into their web GUI manually.

Thanks! I have Synology as well, so that's perfect.

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Post by ghostpepper »

jjeaff wrote: post #524
ghostpepper wrote: post #447

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I'm sure they have the best intentions but there's literally no way to appeal it. Why can't they verify the credit card the way every other merchant seems to be able to?

Sounds like there is a way to appeal it. You just have to provide a copy of a photo id.

Fair enough I should have said there is no reasonable way to appeal it.

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Post by Polyphonie »

Larrikin wrote: post #18
bloopernova wrote: post #5

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

Safari introduced 3rd party ad blocker 7 years ago. If you want to run ad-blocker in 3rd party browser and apps, install and run Adguard Pro from the App Store. That’s been around for at least 5 to 6 years.

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Post by efreak »

josephcsible wrote: post #432
hedora wrote: post #408

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I'll likely just not use banking software that requires safetynet. If that means I need to switch banks, that's OK.

It's a lot more than just banking apps. It's also McDonald's, Netflix, Snapchat, Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run, etc. Will you just stop using all of them too?

I don't have a single one of those apps. I've got _one_ app I install occasionally that doesn't work on my rooted phone (cvs/caremark) and it doesn't work unrooted (or with safetynet fix applied) either--it lets me try to log in, then tells me to use blue shield instead (which works just fine rooted).
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