No problem against it but please don't migrate to discord, migrate to Matrix. My plea has nothing to do with product quality but that with Matrix I can access other bridged people. But discord and pals not so much. Wasting 8gb ram on slack, already on gitter, teams, google meet and I am not even a people's person others have more platforms active in parallel. This is why I don't support any platform that does not als…
Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
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Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
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Does Slack even care if folks not planning to pay are pissed? My understanding is this sort of strategy wants to archive some sort of network effect so business (which actually pay for services) start adopting a product. It's meant to kickstart recurring revenue, not to last forever.
The people who use Slack for their weekend DnD group are the same people who bring it into the companies they work for during the week and ultimately suggest a paid plan. That's the entire idea behind freemium: just because someone doesn't get their own credit card out doesn't mean they don't influence the person who does.
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#603Re: Slack’s free plan change is causing an exodus
#604Buy the product.
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#605I'm grateful to Slack for their changes in the free plan, it forced our hands. We realized it's obvious we can't trust any of these external SaaS services, in the long run they will ALWAYS change the terms and somehow fuck the customers, paying or not. And then you will lose all the invaluable information and data that belongs to you. This has happened with other services we've used in the past too. So we decided to…
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It's irc with the ability to share files and pin stuff to channels :) Felt extremely natural to me from day one. Except threads. Threads are useless.
> Except threads. Threads are useless. That might exactly be my problem with Slack, and Google Chat as well. I understand the desire to wanting to some sort of threading, but it doesn't work in either programs. Instead it just confuses the interface greatly. Slack is super weird, because you can have a thread open, and navigate around, so the thread view is now completely out of context.
I'm sure it depends on your use case etc., but in my work context I find they function really well.
I did try test some concepts around Slack/Discord threads serving as entire "discussions" for a literary community (so you e.g. post a topic and discuss it in the thread under the topic), and in the end there were a bunch of small pain points that all added up and made it unfeasible.
At work though I find Slack threads to be a good middle ground for having discussions in a medium-large channel with interested parties - everyone can see the main channel message, and those who choose to engage further can post in the thread or opt to receive thread updates if they just want to "listen in"... then if some important conclusion is reached you can opt to send that thread message out to the main channel as well to catch other people up on what was discussed.
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It's very expensive to charge someone $1. It wouldn't make much sense to charge $1 / month for a service like that; you'd want to charge $12 / year.
Who charges 12/year? It's more like 10/month and 100/year :)
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My wife has 4 business slacks she's a part of. Because she's got the slack client open all day, she setup a little slack for just her and me to use. We use it during the day to plan things, talk etc etc. It's been great to be able to go back and looks at various conversations/details/bits that were often up to two years old. I don't think we were "freeloading" as such, the 4 business ones she uses are all paid. I'm a…
Its been great for you to use Slack and to be able to go back and view conversations from years ago. It’s so useful to you that you’ve used it for years, and you love it. …but you won’t pay $12/month for it? Yes, you are a freeloader. And you’ll inevitably keep bouncing from free app to free app as services mature and shift focus to making money. You, as a freeloader, are of no economic value to Slack, Discord, or wh…
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#609We have a paid slack for our team & customers, and a free slack to support our community, and Slack continuing to kneecap our community zone keeps pushing us towards dropping slack in general. Just as Slack emerged to fill a social networking gap not quite solved by irc & hipchat, the steady mishandling of community pricing & usage (web indexing, ...) is keeping the door open for a good competitor to knock them out f…
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That's just silly. We just need a web standard that hooks into the existing banking system. Put that into every browser. Just like in 99% of the other use cases presented for it, crypto is useless here. Absolutely no need for it.
Whose existing banking system? The Chinese one? The Japanese one? The Egyptian one? The Indian one?