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A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

kornhole wrote: post #307
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #163

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What if I use Huawei phone, which is banned from using Google services? Obviously, China will have all my info, but they can't (yet) ban me from boarding US trains for low social rating, so what do I care?

You never know when Huawei or China will start doing something similar. You could do better and not have your data sitting with any corporate or government entity. I love my private Nextcloud running on a Raspberry PI. It syncs all contacts, calendar, files, bookmarks, tasks, notes, phone location, and much for may family's degoogled phones and PC's. Own your data and systems.

>> much for may family's

I would better let Google have all my photos and track my location than my father ...

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Post by ComputerGuru »

detaro wrote: post #591
ComputerGuru wrote: post #577

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You’re right, they’re not comparable: Apple was going to be scanning for CSAM on your device, without the photos even reaching their servers (by uploading a backup, texting a copy, etc). Google, so far as I can tell and as corroborated by the article, doesn’t do that. Apple and Google both already scan anything uploaded to your Photos account for CSAM and report to authorities.

No,Apple's proposal was for only scanning stuff that was being uploaded to their servers. And only matching hashes with known material, not general "nude child!" detection. While there's problems with that too, it is a better design than what Google does.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/12/15/apples-hold-on-im...

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Post by jongjong »

riedel wrote: post #595
hulitu wrote: post #391

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People naked: ok. Pictures: nok.

50% of my childhood pictures ( all from beaches in the Netherlands) would be lost (actually my aunt already destroyed some living in the UK and felling pressured for some reason) . I find it disturbing attributing particularly sexuality to children (actually I find a lot of adult looking clothes more disturbing than a nude child). I know that there is people with sexual disorders (I would strongly argue that pedophil…

I find it ridiculous that corporations try to pretend to know more care more about children more than their own parents... When in actual fact, these corporations couldn't care less about them.

You can't really fight nature. If a child is born to horrible parents who abuse them, there is only so much anyone can do... The child's life will be ruined from the beginning, the government cannot undo the damage which has been done.

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Post by MrStonedOne »

akira2501 wrote: post #438
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In the us, there is an unspoken belief that preventing criminals from ""winning"" is more important than protecting citizens. This is why police fired into a stolen minivan that had a unrelated child and a shoplifting/carjacking suspect in it, killing both. Protecting the child took a back seat to punishing the prep. Therefore CP laws very quickly stopped being about protecting the children and more about punishing t…

> A child was once forced to masturbate in front of a camera by COURT ORDER. Police held them down. All because the child was a victim of child pornography and the court wanted a "comparison image" in a similar arousal state to prove it was a image of that child. That summary is misleading and, I feel, wrong. It's not accurate to state that he was "a victim of child pornography," the complaint in this case was agains…

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peoplefromibiza wrote: post #580
hedora wrote: post #490

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Here's an example of a chinese Univerity of Minnesota grad student that tweeted Winnie the Pooh (among other things) while in the US, and was later imprisoned in China for it: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/university-of-minnes...

a Chinese student. I don't support China methods, but mocking the president of your country in public, from abroad, when you know what your Country is is capable of is not a smart move, ever. It happens everywhere, different solutions, same goal: censorship and setting an example. https://time.com/4644297/saturday-night-live-katie-rich-susp...

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Post by wonderbore »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #580
hedora wrote: post #490

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Here's an example of a chinese Univerity of Minnesota grad student that tweeted Winnie the Pooh (among other things) while in the US, and was later imprisoned in China for it: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/university-of-minnes...

a Chinese student. I don't support China methods, but mocking the president of your country in public, from abroad, when you know what your Country is is capable of is not a smart move, ever. It happens everywhere, different solutions, same goal: censorship and setting an example. https://time.com/4644297/saturday-night-live-katie-rich-susp...

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #602
detaro wrote: post #591

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No,Apple's proposal was for only scanning stuff that was being uploaded to their servers. And only matching hashes with known material, not general "nude child!" detection. While there's problems with that too, it is a better design than what Google does.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/12/15/apples-hold-on-im...

As the article states, the scanning only occurred if you had iCloud Photos enabled. From what I recall, it worked like:

1. Use on device ML to scan for child porn before iCloud Photos upload.

2. If not found, issue a cryptographic ticket for iCloud upload and include in upload request.

…the whole point of Apple’s scheme as far as I know was to keep as much of the processing on device as possible while also keeping illegal content off of their cloud servers.

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Post by RestlessMind »

scarface74 wrote: post #431
RestlessMind wrote: post #411

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Not a fan of Google, but > How else do you explain how they are willing to pay a competitor $14 billion+ a year? Obvious that they have more than >14B+ value extracted out of their competitor's ecosystem per year? I am not sure if you are aware of this or not but when Apple screwed FB with all the anti-tracking changes, there was one notable exception - the browser. Guess who benefited the most? All the ad dollars, w…

What I am saying that it is at most a Pyrrhic victory that Google only managed to statistical capture the 30% poorest demographic and still has to pay its competitor to keep from being locked out of being able to reach the highest income demographic. On top of that, Google doesn’t even compete in the worlds largest cellphone market - China. Sure most phones run “Android”. But without any Google services.

> at most a Pyrrhic victory

Then you don't understand the strategy behind Android. This is a fantastic article to help you explain: https://techcrunch.com/2011/03/25/search-googles-castle-moat...

TL;DR: Android was one of the best moats Google could build for its data-and-ads business.

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Post by yeputons »

TylerGlaiel wrote: post #500
tzs wrote: post #495

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When porting to a new carrier, the new carrier asks for your account information and PIN for the old carrier. The new carrier provides that to the old carrier to prove that the port request came from you. It looks like with Google you are supposed use the Google Fi app or website to obtain a “port out number” and PIN [1] to give the new carrier when they ask for account number and PIN. If you accounts have been banne…

Haven't had to do this with google (yet) but filing a complaint with the FCC usually gets you a very prompt response from the company the complaint is about, and I imagine this would be the best thing to do in this case https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us

Yes, people have successfully sent FCC complaints to restore their Google Voice accounts (and Google Accounts as a consequence): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31070914

As it looks from LinkedIn comments, they still do.

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