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It is disruptive to have pronoun activists such as yourself wandering in and derailing the conversation. Please find a more useful hobby than this worthless language policing.
What's more disrupting, my one little comment, or you bickering with me about it? it's not language policing, it's treating folks with respect. Also, glad you created your account just to say this.
Everything with a battery should have an off switch
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Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
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Batteries are sold with an expiration date on the package, and I don't think that's usually decades out. In the 80s I remember seeing expiry dates on AA packs of 99, and my child-brain thought they didn't expire so they put a meaningless number there instead - I couldn't process the idea of the year 1999.
I've had the opposite problem. I was reading a lithium battery package many times, frustrated that I could not find the expiration date. I finally realized that "2032" was printed as a year and was not an alternate size code.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#Lithium_...
Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
#603Examples lying around in my house: Bathroom scale: lovely it powers up when you tap it, but eats up 2 button cells a year for a few dozen uses a year Kitchen scales, bit more use, at least once a day but again 2 button cells a year electronic caliper: Same, eats up 1 button cell a year, just sitting in my toolbox Strangely enough none of our kids toys with batteries seem to suffer from this problem How much extra cos…
I highly prefer AAA cells for those cases, you can get high-quality rechargeable cells from Ikea for a few coins.
Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
#604Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had the opposite problem. I was reading a lithium battery package many times, frustrated that I could not find the expiration date. I finally realized that "2032" was printed as a year and was not an alternate size code.
CR2032 is a battery size, sometimes the CR is dropped due to the small size of the package. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#Lithium_...
Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
#605Another hot take: every device where Bluetooth isn't the sole method of interacting with the device (think AirPods), you should be able to turn off Bluetooth. You haven't seen hell before you've seen a speaker with Bluetooth that you can't turn off and you can't stop your neighbours from accessing. Or more specifically, heard hell.
What is it with the lack of pairing?! My phone is paired with my car--but the bluetooth audio in the car will pick up whatever signal it hears regardless. Including from the car next to me.
Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
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It's a ridiculously easy thing to test, and I've never heard of a phone transmitting while powered off or in airplane mode so far. The FCC for one would throw a fit if airplane mode or power off still actively transmitted.
I would be very curious to know how one could test this so easily. https://www.imobie.com/icloud-unlock/locate-a-lost-cell-phon... and many articles demonstrate that even when a Google or IOS phone is off it can still transmit its location. This means it is not truly off and could possibly transmit more information than you realize. My custom OS phone does not do this TMK, and I am just SOL if I lose it. This is the…
Battery life is another giveaway, I've had android phones turned off in a drawer for months and they still have nearly 100% charge when turned back on. If they were using enough power to make any kind of cell connection, the battery would be dead in a few days.
The link you have there even says "When your phone is turned off or runs out of battery, you won’t be able to track its real-time location"
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Both bathroom and kitchens scales are large enough they can run on AA / AAA batteries and casually go a decade (or more) without replacement. Tangentially: I used to have a 3 button timer, it was a little LCD countdown display and 3 buttons. One button set hours, one minutes, and one starts / stops the countdown timer. I found this timer when I was a kid, used, and the 1 AAA battery it had lasted into adulthood, lite…
That's asking for corrosion damage from the battery. I've got a bathroom scale that goes several years on it's pair of coins even though it turns on only when stepped on. I suspect there's a physical switch involved, though.
Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
#608Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had the opposite problem. I was reading a lithium battery package many times, frustrated that I could not find the expiration date. I finally realized that "2032" was printed as a year and was not an alternate size code.
CR2032 is a battery size, sometimes the CR is dropped due to the small size of the package. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#Lithium_...
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Sure. Sibling comments to my comment explain that the continued "operating noise" is a cooling mechanism that's required by the microwave oven. So, it wouldn't be a good idea to just rip that part out of the design. Even if it may be annoying. Perhaps a better explanation is needed, like some models showing "cool" in the display. But it's per se not a design oversight. Chesterton's Fence is about not changing things…
No, absolutely not. This is not a problem that other microwaves have. It seriously impairs the functioning of the microwave. Chesterton's Fence tells us that there is no cost to eliminating this ridiculously awful functionality, because other microwaves already don't do it . An explanation doesn't help in any way. The solution is to stop misbehaving.
I could criticize cars with combustion engines for having one and being so noisy/stinky/... Then I could go on claiming that they should just turn them off, cause there are cars without combustion engines which are less noisy/stinky/... I'd be missing that there is more to it than just turning off the engine. I'd need to replace it with something else, like an EV. Maybe that did not exist yet when that car was build. So, claiming that this old Ford from 1970 having a combustion engine is stupid because "this is not a problem that other cars have" is missing the point. I could go rip the engine out because I don't like that it's noisy/stinky/... But I'm in for a surprise here. The vehicle won't move anymore. Something I'd have understood had I followed the principle put forward by Chesterton's Fence.
> Chesterton's Fence tells us that there is no cost to eliminating this ridiculously awful functionality
No. It tells you to first understand what you are doing. Blindly claiming something misses that part.
Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch
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My old microwave oven has a fan that is on only when the microwaves are on. If that was possible in 1985 it can be made the same way now.
No doubt it was some combination of lower power, physically larger or simply more prone to failure. Do you suppose the designers go to the trouble of a cool-down timer just for the hell of it?
Actually I guess they both shave off weight/cost and design for built-in model first (that are naturally more heat-constrained) and make standalone variant as an afterthought.