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Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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I mean, this is the way of things. Corporate slacks have bots to correct non-inclusive language, and enforce syntax changes like whitelist --> allowlist, master --> main, etc. IMO it's silly, but nevertheless increasingly ingrained in corporate America. For the many of us that use G Suite for work, this feels like a natural extension of other areas to remind us to use current language. It's potentially a helpful remi…

I mean I do all those substitutions not because of some weird sense of moral superiority but it’s literally a zero effort thing that might do some good and in most cases improves clarity, especially for non-native speakers.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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I spent many years in the bluest corner of a very blue state. But still I can't imagine any objection to the word "landlord" outside of (1) a right wing attempt to satirize the left, (2) a Google product brainstorming meeting, or (3) a rare sincere outlier or concern troll. In any of those cases I don't think this is necessary. That said, if the word "landlord" organically fell out of favor and out of usage to be rep…

The change from “landlord” feels good. I’ve always felt a little awkward when using the word but couldn’t articulate why. Google wouldn’t be my first choice, but it’s nice that someone is able to dedicate attention to this.

What about when the landlord is a company? Or an actual man in fact? We're going from unnecessarily gendered to unnecessarily neutered word.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

#604

Virtue signaling is a hell of a drug. I tried to explain to someone online that the word black has many meanings, not every use of black is about people. Oh man, in the end I was "taught" that just by not accepting his ideas I was a racist person. My experience with this type of person is very bad. They are ignorant people, defending points without understanding the points. They are very aggressive and work in packs.…

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

#606

The most hilarious thing about this is that Google has used "AI" to create the most un-inclusive tool of all, Google Translate. I present you the beautiful translation of hungarian gender-less sentences to english: ő csinos. ő okos. ő csúnya. ő jó. becomes she is pretty. he is clever. she is ugly. he is good. I can't wait for inclusive warnings to come to non-english languages.

It's computer-brain solution to a problem that is crying out for a human. Humans "don't scale". Therefore paying 5 bi-lingual experts to teach the machine is "infeasible", but spending millions upon millions of dollars on hardware and software development, then exposing it the unwashed mess of the internet isn't....

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Reminds me of when GitHub stopped using "master" for the default branch because it was somehow offensive.

My opinion: `main` is better. It's shorter, it's more descriptive, and costs nothing to remove something someone might find offensive. It's pretty much an all around win.

My best friend was killed when a water main burst, and every time I am forced to use a branch named ‘main’ it causes me immense psychological stress.

Since you suggest it “costs nothing to remove something someone might find offensive”, I propose it be changed to something else instead of main.

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

#609

Virtue signaling is a hell of a drug. I tried to explain to someone online that the word black has many meanings, not every use of black is about people. Oh man, in the end I was "taught" that just by not accepting his ideas I was a racist person. My experience with this type of person is very bad. They are ignorant people, defending points without understanding the points. They are very aggressive and work in packs.…

You mean to tell me that all this time black people were the reason the black plague, black mambas, and blacktop exist?

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Reminds me of when GitHub stopped using "master" for the default branch because it was somehow offensive.

And the world moved on, nothing exploded and new generations will be used to 'main'.

Actually quite a lot of things exploded. You just don't care about the people who had to pick up the pieces. Moreover, lots of git repos still use master so "new generations" will just have to do deal with pointless divergence and breakage for nothing. The change wasn't progress. It wasn't useful. It didn't stop anyone being offended. It was and still is pure make-work for absolutely no purpose beyond the demonstration of power over irrelevant things.
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