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Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

incrudible wrote: post #586
namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

>Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

Please stop propagating this BS.

If someone positive coughs in your direction but wears an FFP2 mask on and so do you, then the chance of you getting infected is much lower. That's why it's mandatory in Austria and why healthcare workers wear them, not because it's fashionable but to limit the spread of airborne disease which COVID is one.

Granted, Austria failed to contain the spread of COVID, but not due to the FFP2 enforcement but mostly due to skeptics who refused vaccination, social distancing and other measures, plus lots of pointless and half-assed measures from the government that were more of a theater and were enforced too late in an attempt to not piss people off and not hurt the economy which turned into a self fulfilling prophecy and a negative feedback loop, creating more skeptics and more infectious in the long run.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by OneTimePetes »

shlant wrote: post #580
OneTimePetes wrote: post #568

Do not buy time by shutting down travel and use failed watch/wait approach again - also WHO.

from what I understand, based on current evidence, travel restrictions will not do much at this point: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/1...

Travel restrictions bought Taiwan and South Korea lots of time in the beginning. Other countries who usually follow scientific guidance have implemented them (israel).

There seem to be no real papers linked to the base of this guidance, except that they feel like a attack on the freedom of movement for a globalist elite and the tourism industry. I rather prefer to be healthy and safe, then to put a blind eye to some elite favoured cultural blind spot.

>Reply: Families are even less a reason to visit internationally in a global pandemic. Why should it be a right to bring a potentially deadly disease to your loved ones? Others cant visit there dying family in a hospital, why should one be granted exemption to visit the living?

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by vaylian »

incrudible wrote: post #586
namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

> Masks have a very modest impact on transmission

Do you have a source for that?

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by mathverse »

namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

I am sorry but no. I have already lost 2 years of my life just following and obeying the orders. Enough is enough.

This is not on me to solve. The government had enough time to convince everyone to vaccinate or prepare the healthcare sector for influx of cases of unvaccinated.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by basisword »

choeger wrote: post #591

There's little that can be done, sadly. We had so many shutdowns/lockdowns that did not really help (here in Germany, lockdowns were usually announced when the growth rate had already leveled off). Closing schools and kindergarten hurts kids. Home office might be an idea, where it is not already standard. What I wonder is: Instead of only restricting movement in the general population, why are there not many more tes…

In the UK we can order boxes of lateral flow tests for free online. You can easily test daily before going out with friends/going to work etc. but for some reason, despite the ease of this most people still don’t bother. Obviously governments can do better but we have free daily testing, vaccines available for almost every one, and still laziness/stupidity win in too many cases.
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