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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

It depends, stuff like videos critical of foreign countries political regime end up spammed by politically sponsored griefers to delegitimize them, exactly playing to your heuristic. edit: :^)

Canada is no paradise, but I haven't seen any indication that sponsored agents are gaming the system on videos critical of them.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#602

This is a damned shame. I use dislikes to gauge if a video is relevant to the topic at hand. For example, I like fixing stuff and use Youtube for unfamiliar items. Often videos with a high number of dislikes are Spam (usually a bot reading text from some website), Videos where the person handwaves through the steps, videos where the fix is improper, or videos where the creator spends more time monetizing than working…

For recommended videos I see only two paradigms

- videos with >95% likes

- mostly political videos that have obviously been brigaded

imo this is a reasonable change

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#604
The trend continues...

Tiktok pushed the passive user experience further, and youtube is following. The ideal is user launches app, the app takes care of everything else. Looking at the downvote count is just an extra thing the user can, might or should do. The trend is to reduce these. Youtube's being trendy.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#605

This still seems like a huge disconnect to what people use youtube for vs. what google thinks it should be used for. Google wants youtube to be all network and brands making content. ie. a future version of what TV is now. What actual people want is creator made videos(diy/review/podcast videos and everything else that make youtube wonderful). This disconnect has been happening since google bought youtube and this re…

It's all about Wojcicki. The fact she runs YouTube never ceases to amaze me given that she ran Google Video, which failed largely because she was obsessed with 'professional' content and bet against user generated content. That bet was wrong to such a huge extent she was reduced to recommending Google buy her only competitor. Somehow, despite this failure as an executive - a failure of the kind that got Vic Gundotra…

100% agree, the only reason Wojcicki is still there is she is the sister of founder Sergey Brin's ex-wife and that family supplied the "garage" that started google.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#606
post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

The problem is people also use it as a propaganda tool to bury videos they don’t politically agree with. Normies have much lowered like/dislike button engagement so it’s a disservice to the vast majority.

What fraction of videos on YouTube are political in nature? Seems like a lot of throwing the baby out with the bathwater in this. Why should videos about replacing the alternator on a 1999 Ford Ranger have the Like/Dislike buttons removed because YouTube wants to protect a very small number of accounts from criticism?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#607
post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

It depends, stuff like videos critical of foreign countries political regime end up spammed by politically sponsored griefers to delegitimize them, exactly playing to your heuristic. edit: :^)

That’s a serious charge to level against Cuba. Could you share evidence of it?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#609
post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

You're right about the "attack" thing, but it would be no loss to remove the "Dislike" entirely. I've seen random harmless videos (bit of classical music for instance) with many dislikes. Same with Facebook btw. They should never have added anything over a mere "Like".

YouTube complicated things by having the dislike button double as a literal "I don't like this" and an "I don't want to be recommended videos like this in the future." When you dislike a video, it stamps it with a public seal of disapproval, even if you're just trying to avoid a recommended piece of music on YouTube Music.

It's a clunky, confusing UX that gave rise to the inevitable highly upvoted "Who in the world would dislike this?" threads on so many popular videos.

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