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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

nanomonkey wrote: post #575

Damn, I love the term "meta", and generally enjoy meta concepts (metamodernism, metacognition, metaverse, metamorphosis, etc.). This taints the term terribly.

It's also so fucking unoriginal... "hmm we need a parent company that owns all the other companies, what should we call it?"

I'm not sure how the structure is, if Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and Oculus are separate companies owned by the holding company also named "Facebook".

Obviously the websites/apps will keep their names, just a design will change, e.g. if you load Instagram, the splash screen says currently "Instagram, from Facebook", and it'll be "... from Meta" soon enough.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by uuddlrlr »

carbonguy wrote: post #550
throwawaycuriou wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also blinked at that. But then took it to mean constitutionally in a pure sense - whether they can keep a strength of belief enough to follow through. Unrelated to 'The Constitution' from a US citizen's point of view. Although now I'm pondering just how misplaced and powerful our reverence of that cobbled together document is.

You are correct, that is the sense that I meant it. I'll edit my comment to clarify.

Thanks for clarifying! The constitution is pretty far from fiduciary duty legally, so I apologize for not interpreting it more charitably.

(In general the maximize profit meme does need to die tho)

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by Oddskar »

nazgulnarsil wrote: post #519
quartz wrote: post #3

https://meta.com is live as well. ...I can't tell if it's intentional that the page loads initially with the "facebook" brand in the uppper left and then quickly overwrites it with meta.

It disabled my fucking back button. What a perfect encapsulation of what they are about.

There can be no going backwards. Only forward!

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

silentsea90 wrote: post #375

I dislike FB, but I think it is very cool that Zuck has the guts to radically change the company's identity around a vision that may be arbitrarily far (see: Oculus/Magic Leap's promise vs progress). Most big companies are petrified to make changes that kill the dying golden goose.

I'm not sure how the structure is, if Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and Oculus are separate companies owned by the holding company also named "Facebook".

I'm pretty sure the websites/apps will keep their names, just a design will change, e.g. if you load Instagram, the splash screen says currently "Instagram, from Facebook", and it'll be "... from Meta" soon enough.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by carbonguy »

elil17 wrote: post #380
carbonguy wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. I'm confident I don't want them to own it - or for it to be owned by a single party of any kind, for that matter. > Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? I mean, that would be nice f…

As to point B, they don’t even need to send one to all users - just the ones they think will be cash cows for advertisers. Everyone with a income and behavior pattern that makes them a super valuable ad demographic (say, 5% or even 1% of users) gets one for free while the rest of us pay our way on.

This is an extremely interesting idea - I wonder if they'll start some kind of "invitation beta" for this fraction of users you describe.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by Permit »

wpietri wrote: post #511
brap wrote: post #125

The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

There's a concept I find really useful: Acquired Situational Narcissism. If somebody spends enough time in an environment where everything is about them, they can easily come to believe everything is about them. Another thing I think is at play is people confusing luck with genius. Zuckerberg is clearly smart, but Facebook was also a right-time, right-place thing. As FaceMash and Facebook showed, he understood his au…

I'm trying to word this kindly, but I think you should instead look at the concept of "Parasocial Relationships" if you think it's appropriate to diagnose Mark Zuckerberg with Acquired Situational Narcissism.

You do not know him, you have not met him and it does not make sense to try to diagnose a public figure based on what you've been presented by either his own press releases or media coverage of him. You and the person you have replied to have bought into the idea that no one at Facebook challenges him despite having not worked at Facebook or personally witnessing this.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by debaserab2 »

bmhin wrote: post #195
bduerst wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds?

> the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds I don't know if you have a more narrow view of this idea or specifically mean VR/AR, but that just sounds like what massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of Warcraft are. I think Roblox is even a broader use case, though I am fairly unfamiliar with that. MMOs have been very viable fro…

> MMOs have been very viable from both a business

Really? Everything that's not named World of Warcraft seems to die out, usually in less than a year. It's a genre that's been a notorious recipe for failure for most companies not named Blizzard.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by I-M-S »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #180
nyt-maps wrote: post #19

My god, if you get it, you get it. They are going all in on metaverse / have decided that the future of oculus is the primary long term bet, not facebook itself. And they have the money to make it so. This is incredibly scary, and probably a good investment.

We can call them whatever we want to. Fuck them for trying to take over both "meta" and "metaverse." This is them trying to become _the_ VR world just by having _the right name_. I don't know anyone that calls "xfinity" anything but "comcast." I'm pretty sure "xfinity" was them trying to get away from their nickname "comcrap." Imagine if the world collectively said "no" and kept right on calling them Facebook? They'r…

That kinda happened to Alphabet - everybody still calls them Google
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