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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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For reddit, IMO the simplest things you can do to improve the experience is to force the old reddit design (old.reddit.com) when on desktop, and use any app except the official app when on mobile.

The problem with old.reddit.com (as opposed to teddit) is that numerous links on Reddit will redirect you to the New experience. Absent DNS hacks, you'll find yourself consistently frustrated by this. With Teddit, AFAIU the rewrites will keep you on Teddit rather than bouncing from old (or i) to www.reddit.com. Mind, Reddit shoud GDIAF. The growth hacking crap has also broken my own usage habit. I'll check in periodi…

there are browser addons to auto-redirect to old.reddit.com

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Right there with "for us to deliver better user experience"

Twitter's users are its advertisers. Tiwtter's product is you.

We criticize free services all the time for this, but I think that paying users are monetized all the same. Using American examples, the DMV sells data, internet providers are selling user data, credit card companies are selling user data... so it's not like any other companies don't monetize their users in other ways.

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My point isn't that meaningful conversation is impossible on twitter. Its that the majority isn't and most abuse the gift of an instant global platform. Its tragedy of the commons on an unprecedented scale. Of course there are worthwhile interactions to be made. But the people making them would have been doing so on the less accessible older internet anyways.

The old internet was filled with hate, racism, sexism, people fighting, hating and swearing. Things are actually better. The news seems just as negative as social media.

I see you were not part of the "old internet".

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I prefer to just steal keys by reverse engineering mobile apps. So easy to get keys for just about anything and charge someone else for it that way.

Excellent replies to everyone in this thread. You're spot on. Just out of curiosity, is there a marketplace for private APIs? I'd love if you could elaborate on the "charge someone else for it" part.

I know of RapidAPI by rakuten, it operates as an API marketplace like this

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post #176

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I prefer to just steal keys by reverse engineering mobile apps. So easy to get keys for just about anything and charge someone else for it that way.

Interesting. As someone who hasn't done any mobile dev at all, is there a way to prevent something like this from happening? Can't you somehow encrypt such secrets in the app?

You could proxy requests over a server you control. This might just shift your problem, depending on the use case.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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I've literally just spent a couple of hours integrating Nitter.net's RSS feed into my custom feed reader. Why a couple of hours? Because Nitter for some reason returns a 404 header instead of 200 when it gives you the RSS feed data. Consequently stuff like PHPs file_get_contents() and curl_exec() return absolutely nothing... took me ages (via trying to shell out to curl, and then back to using the lib again) before I…

I've found that only happens when you're not doing GET: curl https://nitter.1d4.us/newsycombinator/rss 2620::2218 - - [24/Aug/2021:11:32:56 -0400] "GET /newsycombinator/rss HTTP/2.0" 200 12985 "-" "curl/7.64.1" vs curl --head https://nitter.1d4.us/newsycombinator/rss 2620::2218 - - [24/Aug/2021:11:33:57 -0400] "HEAD /newsycombinator/rss HTTP/2.0" 404 0 "-" "curl/7.64.1"

Ah I was using --head (actually -I) as part of my debugging. It's still not correct though is it? (I was thinking about opening an issue on the github repo)

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Mobile developers can implement certificate pinning to prevent man in the middle snooping. Twitter's app does this.

I hope you did not just assume that general purpose computing and device ownership can be subverted by mere certificate pinning. If it's executing on my device, you can be sure I can poke it and see what it's doing.

Your device?

Posting on HN, I'm sure that you are aware that the mobile touchscreen computers in most people pockets are "owned" not by the consumer but by the manufacturer long after the device was _purchased_ by the consumer. Do you have, or can you easily get, root access? Swap the bootloader? Install an alternate ROM?

And even if _you_ can, the far majority of consumers cannot.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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post #122

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I just want to be able to occasionally read a few tweets with no required login or account. Just the same with Instagram and similar, I just won't use it and I'll forget about it. I guess Twitter is next. No, I've never had a Twitter account. I don't have a Facebook account.

I don't think Twitter cares that you won't use it. They've almost certainly weighed the cost of a tiny portion of people caring vs a massive reduction in bots.

>They've almost certainly weighed the cost of a tiny portion of people caring vs a massive reduction in bots.

I'm sure they have. And I, being used to being in the minority of users, will likely find some 3rd party solution around the problem they created. Win-win outside of me wasting a few minutes installing another extension.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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>I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Nothing. Hire more moderators maybe. it also looks dishonest to frame it this way when twitter asks these pii for "spam protection" and yet still can't ban obvious Fiverr-like spam accounts > Like what other things can we ask for that actually work and aren’t more invasive? Nothing, somehow plenty of websites do fine without even asking for email, including this o…

They've already rejected doing nothing, as it doesn't work. I want Tesla to give me a free car too, but it ain't happening. At some point a company makes decisions you aren't gonna agree with and your only recourse is to not use them. If that means you can't read Twitter, then that's the price you pay. You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms.

>You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account

no you see, that's the problem. I don't WANT a twitter account, but I apparently need to use the site to view local updates in my town.

I'm perfectly happy continuing to not post there. I just don't see the benefit in making me find an extension around this annoyance so I can continue to not have a twitter account.

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