This doesn't make any sense. It's like if the Food Network suddenly announced that due to mounting pressure from advertisers, they would no longer be airing any cooking shows.
Or like MTV no longer showing music videos 24/7
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#602Wow, you spend years thinking crypto is convoluted nonsense…and then something comes along that impacts a lot of your friends, and you start to change your mind. I have a fair number† of friends and acquaintances who have OnlyFans. Some for side income, some for a substantial portion of their livelihood. And to see that get taken away because the payment processors want them to fall in line…I guess I’m on the crypto…
If crypto was actually a viable alternative they wouldn't be doing this. I'm not against the promises of crypto - but the tech so far has failed to deliver anything but a platform to streamline illegal activity, asset speculation bubbles and a whole bunch of wasted energy/hardware along with reliving the problems people had historically with bank fraud in free banking and the likes (banks printing their own notes wit…
The "only people doing illegal stuff use it" point doesn't really hold up when you consider how much energy is going into keeping legal uses less convenient than centralized finance. It's like saying only robbers wear masks, and then we have a pandemic and suddenly everyone does. With the right economic incentives, defi is a tool waiting for the right moment to shine. This could be such a moment.
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#603Earlier quoted context omitted.
My understanding is that this industry has way higher than average chargeback/fraud rates, which is really what discourages payment processors/banks from wanting to support them.
Why can't the payment processor just come to an agreement with OnlyFans to hold back some reserve funds to cover the high chargeback/fraud rate?
Because of your chargeback rate is persistently high enough, the payment networks will cut you off irrespective of processor.
If it was just covering the chargebacks it'd be easy.
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#604Earlier quoted context omitted.
With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…
A huge chunk of the planet is forced into jobs they don't like to provide for themselves and their families. What's so "dignifying" about a job getting humiliated by entitled customers in retail or waitressing for minimum wage or breaking your body doing hard manual labor? Religious morality is the only reason a much more safe, comfortable and lucrative option like OnlyFans is banned.
Are you saying that working retail or construction is about the same as doing porn in terms of how society treats you? That does not match my experience by a long shot. They are qualitatively different.
> Religious morality is the only reason a much more safe, comfortable and lucrative option like OnlyFans is banned.
I do not think this is right either. Take away all the religious baggage and still parents will try to keep their daughters from doing porn. Change our neurobiology so we don't act that way and, well you have a different species.
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#605Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very likely the pressure is coming from Visa and MasterCard (especially MC) rather than at the level of CCbill.
This doesn't make any sense at all. Pick a subscription porn site right now, any one, and go try to sign up. You don't have to follow through, just get to the payment page and don't click submit. They all take Visa and MasterCard. CCbill itself couldn't exist if Visa and MasterCard didn't let it process payments for porn.
It's not about a flat yes/no to porn, it's about the level of arbitrary rules, shifting policies, banned keywords etc etc that Mastercard inflict on any businesses that include adult content, that make operating a business nearly impossible.
These rules are getting worse because MC's head has decided to give in to the scaremongering by far right religious group Exodus Cry.
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#606Isn't it funny how porn-related news generate such great interest and such fiery intellectual debates on HN?
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#607Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…
Edit: as has been pointed out, I’ve misrepresented the parent comment. It’s late here, my apologies.
There seem to be a lot of assumptions here that I don’t agree with. So perhaps this comment isn’t for me, in which case feel free to ignore the following.
People seem to add so many values into the mix when it comes to sex work. If these old lonely people paid carers to visit them at home, would that be somehow different? Are these old lonely people somehow exploited because there is sex involved? If they cannot make rational choices because sex is involved then I’d say that is the problem.
Also, where does being able to “have” someone figure into any of this? There is no ‘you must be at least this hot to enter’ scale, people get together for all kinds of reasons. Plus, “have” sounds a lot like possession of someone, which I think we all think is bad? Right?
I think there are a lot of values encoded in the above comment, but I also know it wasn’t intended negatively.
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#608Earlier quoted context omitted.
I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site, but let's not kid ourselves about PornHub. It was mostly pirated content with a lot of videos of people being harmed.
Nobody was being harmed on Pornhub. Don't feed the lying anti-sex work media.
They were, In 2020 they removed over 600,000 videos that contained abuse.
https://www.engadget.com/pornhub-first-transparency-report-1...
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#609Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…
PH is having problems due to so much "user uploaded" content that they can not verify the identity of the actors contained within. The difference now is that Mastercard is enforcing the rules rather than the US Government which had USC2257 in place for many years with the same requirements. The difference this time is that MC is global(and controls these sites income) and USGov is not, so MC is actually able to enfor…
I wonder if the reason "sexually explicit content" isn't allowed is because that generally involves a partner. I believe OF requires ID verification before you can do _anything_ as a creator, so they're trying to curb that by making it essentially a solo website.
It might be a better idea to require all participants in videos to have their OF account linked and tagged in the video.
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#610So they are shutting down the site?